UK government wants easy access to your private communications.

[savoloysam]

They are pushing to be allowed backdoor access to all mobile messaging systems which is basically every hackers dreams come true.

New UK law could spark 'default surveillance of everyone's devices'

Plans to update the Investigatory Powers Act could normalise surveillance of personal devices, experts have warned.

thenextweb.com

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Fucking sinister shit!

 

[gentlegreen]

So long as it includes politicians.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I always assume they can already access everything if they want.

 

[teqniq]

You can wave goodbye to WhatApp and Signal if this happens, they'v already said they'll leave if the online safety bill is passed in its current form.

New UK law could spark 'default surveillance of everyone's devices'

Plans to update the Investigatory Powers Act could normalise surveillance of personal devices, experts have warned.

thenextweb.com

 

[redcogs]

Remember the old film 'The lives of Others'.? i thought at the time that the depiction of East Germany as a totalitarian shithole also sort of applied to UK incorporated (but for different reasons). Today it is a spot on parallel. We are about the most surveilled nation and its getting worse by the day. You cant even turn off the smart facility of your telly, which should be something incorporated within each and every set. Privacy has gone, exchanged for commerce

 

[StoneRoad]

And a lot of {most} people are sleep-walking into allowing such intrusions into what should be private space.
Online apps for everything and Smart speakers, anyone ?

Shades of big brother in 1984 ...

 

[savoloysam]

So long as it includes politicians.

So long as it includes politicians.

I believe certain professions such as MPs are already exempt from the current Investigatory powers bill.

 

[Pickman's model]

I believe certain professions such as MPs are already exempt from the current Investigatory powers bill meaning.

But can you show where this is confirmed?

 

[savoloysam]

And a lot of {most} people are sleep-walking into allowing such intrusions into what should be private space.
Online apps for everything and Smart speakers, anyone ?

Shades of big brother in 1984 ...

Yup. Most people don't realise that the "Internet of Things" is a major vulnerability which because of a lack of security is a easy gateway to a network.

 

[Pickman's model]

Remember the old film 'The lives of Others'.? i thought at the time that the depiction of East Germany as a totalitarian shithole also sort of applied to UK incorporated (but for different reasons). Today it is a spot on parallel. We are about the most surveilled nation and its getting worse by the day. You cant even turn off the smart facility of your telly, which should be something incorporated within each and every set. Privacy has gone, exchanged for commerce

We aren't, China is

 

[savoloysam]

But can you show where this is confirmed?

Could be wrong but Im sure I read it somewhere.

 

[savoloysam]

We aren't, China is

Were not far off though are we? Have you seen how many agencies can access your internet logs without a warrant?

 

[yield]

Could be wrong but Im sure I read it somewhere.

Investigatory Powers Bill: Politicians exempt themselves from new wide-ranging spying laws
The decision to let MPs and other legislators have extra protections was the first and for a long time only amendment made to the Bill
Wednesday 30 November 2016

But for members of parliament and other politicians, extra rules have been introduced. Those warrants must also be approved by the prime minister.

That rule applies not only to members of the Westminster parliament but alos politicians in the devolved assembly and members of the European Parliament.

From 2016, may have changed since then?

 

[two sheds]

Won't this mean they have to ban VPNs?

 

[redcogs]

We aren't, China is

Maybe. i imagine it is difficult to quantify. In the uk there are cameras almost everywhere there are properties, and in many rural areas also. Shops are full of surveilence equipment and private army type guards. Almost every pc and mobile phone has an internal spy monitoring away 'in the background'. Etc etc. But you know all this. The curious thing is the extent to which the population has willingly accepted the ever expanding surveilence creep, actually paying money for it, despite the extremely sinister long term implications. If you ask me, (and i know didn't), its a diabolical incursion into each individuals entitlement to a level of privacy that most people had automatically prior to the explosion of tech modernity. People need to WAKE Fucking UP

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Won't this mean they have to ban VPNs?

i think so.

 

[a_chap]

Don't worry, they won't ban VPNs

But they may well ban the use of VPNs....

 

[two sheds]

or demand that they're not encrypted or that the government's given access to decryption.

 

[nogojones]

Best get used to using PGP then

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Won't this mean they have to ban VPNs?

Not really. Most VPNs keep logs and will hand them over if asked.

 

[two sheds]

Logging that you've connected to a particular site or logs of the actual decrypted messages?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I've always assumed that if I'm intresting enough that the government wants to tap my communications I'm probably fucked.

The more concerning bit is once these back doors are baked in, then malicious actors can probably compromise them.

 

[Teaboy]

Best get used to using PGP then

I'm intrigued. Do you snort it or inject?

 

[alex_]

Don't worry, they won't ban VPNs

But they may well ban the use of VPNs....

They’ll require VPNs to keep logs.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've always assumed that if I'm intresting enough that the government wants to tap my communications I'm probably fucked.

I liken it to the Eye of Sauron. Its not looking at you directly but its there and if you are worthy of notice it'll focus then send the uruk hai round to haul you off to chokey.

 

[platinumsage]

They’ll require VPNs to keep logs.

How will that work for VPN providers domiciled in a data haven (e.g. Panama)?

 

[platinumsage]

It's not going to happen is it? Sunak isn't going to force Apple to remove iMessage, and Facebook to remove Whatsapp from the UK just prior to a general election.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

How would politicians do anything without WhatsApp?

 

[NoXion]

Aside from this being a monstrous level of overreach, this kind of shit can and will be abused by criminals. It's like requiring that all businesses and dwellings be secured by locks that can be opened by a master key.