UK coronavirus tracking app - discussion

[Teaboy]

It's never going to happen, is it? Now they're saying the plan all along was to start the system without the app and introduce it later, which is obvious bollocks. What's the betting in a couple of weeks' time that mysteriously the app will never be mentioned again?

No, I don't think it will but then again I'm not sure the entire concept of using an app in this way was ever going to work. I know mauvais has been very sceptical from day one on this thread.

We'll see how it fares in other countries but I don't think its going to be much of a success in many places. It doesn't mean to say it shouldn't be tried as we are into uncharted waters and its certainly worth a go.

 

[Mogden]

Things are afoot.
I've graffitied myself cos I'm aware it's easy to find me but there's just an element of being sensible about these things.

 

[brogdale]

What an utter fucking shit show of a 'government'..

 

[scifisam]

As a point of reference, I still play Pokemon Go. Might as well - it takes no effort.

There's a feature where you can do adventure sync, and it will say how far you've travelled in the time your phone did not have pokemon go active. Every night I travel half a kilometre while sleeping. Some nights I travel 2.5km without leaving the room.

This is an app with huge amounts of funding and millions of users.

On any app that rested on GPS data, I would have travelled 2.5km, within London. It would be useless.

 

[Supine]

Reckon they'll get some amusing contact lists if they ring up anyone in/near Barnard Castle!

or if they contact this guy

 

[two sheds]

As a point of reference, I still play Pokemon Go. Might as well - it takes no effort.

There's a feature where you can do adventure sync, and it will say how far you've travelled in the time your phone did not have pokemon go active. Every night I travel half a kilometre while sleeping. Some nights I travel 2.5km without leaving the room.

This is an app with huge amounts of funding and millions of users.

On any app that rested on GPS data, I would have travelled 2.5km, within London. It would be useless.

You sure you're not sleepwalking?

 

[weltweit]

So do we take it that the IoW trial wasn't a success?
I haven't seen comments about it in the media, positive or negative.
Well I saw it won't be available immediately, which is a comment of some kind I suppose.

 

[Mogden]

So do we take it that the IoW trial wasn't a success?
I haven't seen comments about it in the media, positive or negative.
Well I saw it won't be available immediately, which is a comment of some kind I suppose.

I truly did see something on Twitter about it going missing but I still don't know in what content and can't find the info again which is rare for me. I can usually find most of what I've read by recall or Google-fu but that's defeated me for now.

 

[William of Walworth]

What an utter fucking shit show of a 'government'..

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I had to Wiki 'Dido Harding' , but that's surely a reliable source for Bradshaw's post ....

 

[scifisam]

You sure you're not sleepwalking?

Yeah, absolutely sure.

 

[editor]

It's as bad as we all thought it would be

That night I saw someone from the track-and-trace programme had spoken to the BBC, and noted that their group had spent the day watching Netflix or playing games online. Having spent days feeling frustrated, I started to feel dejected too.

Two days later I logged in for my weekend shift and discovered nothing had changed – and that I had clocked up 40 hours of key worker pay for doing absolutely nothing.

After the Dominic Cummings story broke I started hearing more media stories about the track-and-trace programme. Health secretary Matt Hancock claimed that “highly trained track-and-trace staff” were in place. I still had not seen the government system we were supposed to use.

Why I quit working on Boris Johnson's ‘world-beating' test-and-tracing system | Anonymous

This programme is not fit to bring Britain out of lockdown, says an anonymous customer service adviser

www.theguardian.com

 

[xsunnysuex]

Found this on my phone this morning. I didn't install it!

 

[Mation]

Better late than never, I suppose.

Ministers consider coronavirus-tracing app rethink

Concerns about the risks of deploying a go-it-alone UK coronavirus contact-tracing app are causing further delays.

A second version of the smartphone software was due to have begun testing on the Isle of Wight on Tuesday, but the government decided to postpone the trial.

Ministers are considering switching the app over to tech developed by Apple and Google.

But countries testing that model are experiencing issues of their own.

 

[Badgers]

Better late than never, I suppose.

Ministers consider coronavirus-tracing app rethink

Their mates/donors have the money now so might as well backtrack #moveon

 

[MrSki]

So it looks like winter till it is up and running. What a load off bollocks & cash to mates of Cummings.

 

[MrSki]

Looks like the rest of the world are laughing at the UK. What a shower of shite.

LONDON — Prime Minister Boris Johnson of Britain unveiled last month a “world beating” operation to track down people who had been exposed to the coronavirus, giving the country a chance to climb out of lockdown without losing sight of where infections were spreading.
As with much of the government’s response to the pandemic, however, the results have fallen short of the promises, jeopardizing the reopening of Britain’s hobbled economy and risking a second wave of death in one of the countries most debilitated by the virus.
In almost three weeks since the start of the system in England, called N.H.S. Test and Trace, some contact tracers have failed to reach a single person, filling their days instead with internet exercise classes and bookshelf organizing.
Some call handlers, scattered in offices and homes far from the people they speak with, have mistakenly tried to send patients in England to testing sites across the sea in Northern Ireland.

The New York Times

 

[platinumsage]

There it is:

UK virus-tracing app switches to Apple-Google model

Government now intends to launch an app in the autumn but it may still lack contact-tracing tech.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[existentialist]

There it is:

UK virus-tracing app switches to Apple-Google model

Government now intends to launch an app in the autumn but it may still lack contact-tracing tech.

www.bbc.co.uk

TBH, I think this is just another (expensive) twitch in the agonised death throes of the whole project.

Two possibilities emerge: either the government is SO FUCKING STUPID it thinks that there's nothing wrong with roaring up several blind alleys in succession without any success, or it thinks the rest of us are SO FUCKING STUPID that it doesn't matter if they do it.

I wouldn't want to put my money on either one over the other.

 

[MrSki]

A timeline of this shambles.

If he had any decency at all he would resign over his pet project.

 

[not-bono-ever]

white heat of the technological revolution needed here

 

[brogdale]

But, but...the loyal people on the Isle of Wight...

 

[editor]

I hope we can get some figures on how much this farrago of fumbling incompetence has cost us all and then we can add it to the PM plane respray and add it all the Brexit savings that never materialised.

 

[wayward bob]

going well then...

 

[Badgers]

going well then...

The government's tagine

 

[wayward bob]

The government's tagine

 

[Badgers]

 

[quiet guy]

Just when you think they can't fuck up anymore, they do. Complete shambles and of course no one will accept responsibility.

 

[Pickman's model]

i don't think the government's tagine would be anywhere near that good

 

[Pickman's model]

A timeline of this shambles.

If he had any decency at all he would resign over his pet project.

if he had any decency he'd have thrown himself off beachy head a long time ago

 

[Teaboy]

Hancock has just been on saying that the reason the government app won't work is because Apple systems won't allow it. This was posted on here pages back, its more than a bit surprising that professional app developers didn't know this.

He also mentions that apple's version isn't good enough because its range is not up to the job. Apparently a hi-bred is required.