Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
But he was, and it was great, so get over it 
Twin Peaks returns to television.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
His voice is like fingernails on a blackboard to me.But he was, and it was great, so get over it
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
I watched it under the influence of nothing stronger than wine, and felt exactly the same.
elbows
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It is a source on ongoing amusement to me that Lynch and his 'I don't explain my art' thang fell foul off people thinking Jeffries was in a kettle 
David Lynch on Bowie and the Music that Inspired the New “Twin Peaks” | Pitchfork
Especially when Kyle Maclachlan makes tweets like this one
David Lynch on Bowie and the Music that Inspired the New “Twin Peaks” | Pitchfork
Especially when Kyle Maclachlan makes tweets like this one
elbows
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Well I'm about half way through the new book. Much like the last one, it would be a massive stretch to call it a novel, it's very short, and it isn't exactly the finest writing I've ever read. But it does fill in quite a lot of gaps so is interesting, although I must admit that I really don't like how Frost has filled in some of the gaps, some of it doesn't ring true, and other bits are a great indication of why Lynch is often right not to give people all the answers.
elbows
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Finished it even quicker than I expected - poor value!
In the end it filled in even more gaps than I suggested before, and there was some stuff I liked in the 2nd half of the book including one thing that made me laugh out loud that I won't spoil right now. But also one or two more things that had a continuity problem with what we saw in the 3rd series.
In the end it filled in even more gaps than I suggested before, and there was some stuff I liked in the 2nd half of the book including one thing that made me laugh out loud that I won't spoil right now. But also one or two more things that had a continuity problem with what we saw in the 3rd series.
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
Has anyone rewatched the 3rd series? I think it may be time.
elbows
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I keep meaning to but I've ended up watching episodes such as 1,2 and 8 too many times since they were first shown, I need to be more disciplined and do the whole lot again even though there are a few other episodes that I might not enjoy very much. Most of it still seems so vivid in my mind as if it were only yesterday it was on, and there was so much time to absorb everything the first time round due to the pace of it that I dont know if I'll spot anything new to dwell on.
Reno
The In Kraut
I’m planning to watch it again soon. I’ve promised myself to rewatch season 2 first, but the second half of season 2 is a slog. Rewatched season 1 at the same time as when I first watched season 3. Twin Peaks 3 isn’t just my favourite season of a TV show ever, as far as I’m concerned it’s the crowning achievement of 21st century culture. Nothing has so continuously surprised, delighted and freaked me out in the last couple of decades.
elbows
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Maybe that VR headset I wasted loads of money on a long time ago wont turn out to be a complete waste after all...
Or maybe it will only be available for a platform I havent got, or who knows. In any case certain parts of the world of Twin Peaks in VR are something I have previously dreamt of since that dreamy nightmare world is ripe for such experiences and I reckon could be good even at this very limited and gimmicky stage of VR.
Or maybe it will only be available for a platform I havent got, or who knows. In any case certain parts of the world of Twin Peaks in VR are something I have previously dreamt of since that dreamy nightmare world is ripe for such experiences and I reckon could be good even at this very limited and gimmicky stage of VR.
Got a copy of the event series from Cex, which isn't unlike the Black Lodge. It's decked out in red, annoying music plays , and you wait 25 years for someone barely able to speak clearly to help you. On the plus side you don't get harassed by a bollock on a tree, nor sent through a plug socket.
I've only watched the first 5 eps. But this is the most bonkers thing I've ever seen and it's glorious. The only issue so far is so little is in Twin Peaks itself.
Sad that the original sheriff isn't in it. Not sure what happened there.
Hope Coop regains his memory. Can't second guess anything.
Loved seeing Denise again.
Didn't like the smoking guy in the club threatening to rape that girl who asked for a light, that seemed utterly random and horrific.
I love the original TP, some of it was genuinely disturbing (Maddie's death, the Owls are hooting, Bob in general), funny and moving.
I love the ham acting; the deliberately shit performances are magnificent. That's not a perjorative; this is clearly deliberate.
I keep expecting Dougie/Coop to say "new shoes"
I realise this discussion is several years old.
, and you wait 25 years for someone barely able to speak clearly to help you. On the plus side you don't get harassed by a bollock on a tree, nor sent through a plug socket.I've only watched the first 5 eps. But this is the most bonkers thing I've ever seen and it's glorious. The only issue so far is so little is in Twin Peaks itself.
Sad that the original sheriff isn't in it. Not sure what happened there.
Hope Coop regains his memory. Can't second guess anything.
Loved seeing Denise again.
Didn't like the smoking guy in the club threatening to rape that girl who asked for a light, that seemed utterly random and horrific.
I love the original TP, some of it was genuinely disturbing (Maddie's death, the Owls are hooting, Bob in general), funny and moving.
I love the ham acting; the deliberately shit performances are magnificent. That's not a perjorative; this is clearly deliberate.
I keep expecting Dougie/Coop to say "new shoes"
I realise this discussion is several years old.
I picked up the original series too as that's super cheap also. I was going to rewatch the whole thing in sequence but honestly it might have killed me. I just had to watch the new series anyway.
This is either genius or madness
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Have you seen episode 8?
Just watched it while having my lunch.
Even a Naked Lunch would have been less bizarre.
I'd be lying if I said I understood what just happened, but Bob was in that episode. I take it he was the "gotta light?" guy who looked like Tom Waits.
Was the young couple meant to be Laura's parents?
That was faintly disturbing
elbows
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No. He was one of the 'woodsmen' who are all over this series, in the present as well as the past. Shadowy figures such as the one whose own head floats off after the school principal ends up in jail. And coming to bad Coop/Bobs aid when he is shot.There is a bit of background on them in one of Frosts books that he wrote to go with the new series. These books are interesting for twin peaks nerds, but they are not amazing books on their own, and are probably not 100% consistent with everything Lynch does in the series.
I suppose what I got out of episode 8 was that the volume had been turned up on the 'various worlds/dimensions collide' theme that always lurked within twin peaks. What started in the original as connections between the 'real world' and the evil that men do, local folklore, the forces in the woods, the black lodge, Bob, the giant, and dreams, has expanded further, with some backstory. Now we have a demon/alien/mother? that threw up Bob and other spawn. Whether this being was created by the nuclear explosion or was simply energised by it or responding to it is unclear. And then we have the giant character and the woman observing all these evils and responding with a Laura orb to counter the Bob orb. And we have the woodsmen who represent a new evil manifestation that serves the same agenda as the other devil vomit products getting in on the action.
I suppose the woodsmen arent quite brand new to the world of Twin Peaks - there is already a somewhat similar character in the background of the convenience store 'intercourse between two worlds' scene in fire walk with me, and the log ladies husband perished in a fire in the backstory (expanded by Frost in one of the books to the extent that its easy to imagine lots of burnt to death woodsmen lingering as a force).
Well its Lynch, so dont expect unambiguous answers to this. Maybe at least one thing happens later in the series that gives another clue about this possibility, so I dont want to say more now. It certainly seems reasonable to think that the makers of the show were inviting the audience to jump to this conclusion.
elbows
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He is retired from acting. I believe there were early signs that he was going to come out of retirement and be in it (if I remember properly, he was looking online for a jacket like the one he wore in the original series) but then something stopped that happening. Perhaps his health isnt what it was, or one of his loved ones wasnt well, dont know, anything on this front was kept private back when I was actively looking for info.
The little 'man from another place' was replaced by that crazy tree (the evolution of the arm!) because he fell out with Lynch big time and made all manner of wild and terrible accusations about him. I seem to remember hearing that he ranted a load of anti-semitic shit too. Luckily they still had the one armed man to do much of the black lodge stuff.
I think that new series would have been quite different if Don S Davis (Garland Briggs) and Frank Silva (Bob) were still alive to be in it. And Catherine E Coulson (Log Lady) was too near to death during early filming to travel to the location, so they shot her bits in a hurry somewhere else, and not long after she passed away.
Sure.
Though. It is. Mindblown.
Episodes of shows like episode 8 are a hard sell for me because I crave understanding. Plus stuff that's disturbing in that way, more so than if it was blood and guts for instance, freak me out. The original had moments like that (the Owls are Hooting and the murder of Maddie Palmer) but were tempered with humour and pathos. The insertion of weird horror into this suburban soap opera narrative was one of many elements. It may even have been one of the weakest. Relatively speaking.
This series is clearly one of the most groundbreaking tv series I have ever seen (though I'm no expert by any means, I barely watch tv).
There are moments where it feels like stream of conscious skits are inserted...just because. Dr Jacobi spray painting shovels, Andy and Lucy talking about buying chairs online. Sheriff Truman's wife is amazing. She is so over the top. Harry Dean Stanton (who was in Fire Walk With Me but I cannot remember that at all other than it being beyond weird) seeing souls go to heaven. The three detectives who just keep laughing at stuff. The way Kyle MacClachlan blinks when playing Dougie/Cooper. Fuck you Albert.
But i cannot pretend to understand episode 8 at all. I seem to recall reading somewhere that Leland first encountered/got possessed by Bob on a family holiday as a young man. Out in the woods somewhere. I haven't seen the original in years. I watched it at the time it first came out and was the best TV show ever made. That opinion has tempered somewhat for personal taste reasons. Not that such a comment really has any meaning.
It simply...is. But as far as these 'event' type reboot/revisit shows go. This is by far the best I've seen. It isn't hacnkeyed or made to cash in. It doesnt' feel forced or contrived. It'salmost as if the characters, actors even, haven't moved forward in time. Yet this is set against a modern backdrop - the sheriff Skyping the doctor, or Jacobi's 'infowars' broadcast/infomercial.
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elbows
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Well I thrive on the weird/dark/surreal bits, so I'm the opposite in that respect.
However even I will concede that the balance of all these things was better in the first 2 series. I think this was because the weird stuff was not well developed in the minds of the creators when the original first started. And Lynch was busy with other things at certain pints, there were other directors, the show was open-ended in terms of how long it would run. And the town of Twin Peaks itself, and the various characters, were very strong in the original.
Its possible that Mark Frosts role in the original, with his experience of writing tv shows for a broad audience, really helped the balance back then. With this third series he was involved in the writing before production began, but the actual production was all about Lynch, and in many ways its an 18 hour Lynch movie.
However even I will concede that the balance of all these things was better in the first 2 series. I think this was because the weird stuff was not well developed in the minds of the creators when the original first started. And Lynch was busy with other things at certain pints, there were other directors, the show was open-ended in terms of how long it would run. And the town of Twin Peaks itself, and the various characters, were very strong in the original.
Its possible that Mark Frosts role in the original, with his experience of writing tv shows for a broad audience, really helped the balance back then. With this third series he was involved in the writing before production began, but the actual production was all about Lynch, and in many ways its an 18 hour Lynch movie.
I do, but to a point. If it's too uncomfortable I don't like it. I've never liked intense psychological horror either.
THat's just the conventional tv viewing part of me. I half expect Cooper to return and have a kungfu smackdown with Bob. Of course that won't happen. I'm not even convinced Coop will recover!If you crave understanding you are watching the wrong show
I will be trying to understand this in another 25 years, and that is why I love it!
Noooooooooo!
Fuck you Albert
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
Best show on telly, ever.
It's like a Pacific Northwest version of Emmerdale Farm, but less creepy.
Need to rewatch series 3 soon.
It's like a Pacific Northwest version of Emmerdale Farm, but less creepy.
Need to rewatch series 3 soon.
Just watched episode with Gordon's dream and Andy goes to meet the Fireman!
I thought Sarah Palmer was dead? Obviously not, but I'm sure that happened in the original.
What the fuck is wrong with her face! It's an interdimensional portal! Did that happen in FireWalk With Me? I forgot David Bowie played Philip jeffries; that was a very weird scene. In a very weird movie.
Who is the freaky no eyes woman?
Frank Silva is credited as playing Bob, is he a relative of the original actor?
Is Audrey Horne hallucinating her entire life? Is it an out of body experience from the explosion?
Love the angry FBI guy Gordon calls.
I thought Sarah Palmer was dead? Obviously not, but I'm sure that happened in the original.
What the fuck is wrong with her face! It's an interdimensional portal! Did that happen in FireWalk With Me? I forgot David Bowie played Philip jeffries; that was a very weird scene. In a very weird movie.
Who is the freaky no eyes woman?
Frank Silva is credited as playing Bob, is he a relative of the original actor?
Is Audrey Horne hallucinating her entire life? Is it an out of body experience from the explosion?
Love the angry FBI guy Gordon calls.
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