Trump - what's the truth?
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I've just noticed this thread, so I am cross posting the post below from the 'trump croak thread.'
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His return to the White House is just political theatre, remember there's a fully equipped hospital in the WH, and 'he'll be surrounded by world class medical care 24/7', according to Sean Conley, which suggests he hasn't 'met or exceeded all standard hospital discharge criteria', as claimed.
The whole interview is worth reading TBH, but here's a couple of highlights.
So, we have around a week for this to play out, plenty of time for it to all go tits-up for him.
And, plenty of arse covering going on too.
Transcript: Doctors Say Trump Will Continue Treatment From White House
The president's medical team said on Monday that he would be able to leave Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Monday. Here is a transcript of their remarks.www.npr.org
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I've voted 'C' in hope, whilst knowing 'B' is still possible.
Dr Dull...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Racaniello and Griffin think that the Dexamethasone and so on is a reasonable thing to give someone, and the WHO doc Maria van Kerkhove has talked about the importance of giving dexamethasone and remdisivir before to give covid patients too. So the treatments aren't all that bizarre, they seem to be quite reasonable. Trump is obviously bloody high though. 
elbows
Well-Known Member
In truth he must hae died some time ago as he has already been reincarnated as a lobster.
Fleetwood fishmonger saves 'one in 30 million' orange Canadian lobster
The unusually-coloured Canadian lobster turned up in a delivery to a Fleetwood fishmonger.
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In truth he must hae died some time ago as he has already been reincarnated as a lobster.
Fleetwood fishmonger saves 'one in 30 million' orange Canadian lobster
The unusually-coloured Canadian lobster turned up in a delivery to a Fleetwood fishmonger.www.bbc.co.uk
The Lobster - Wikipedia
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
And we all know the only way to cover up a Nazi is with a MASSIVE LOBSTER.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Racaniello and Griffin think that the Dexamethasone and so on is a reasonable thing to give someone, and the WHO doc Maria van Kerkhove has talked about the importance of giving dexamethasone and remdisivir before to give covid patients too. So the treatments aren't all that bizarre, they seem to be quite reasonable. Trump is obviously bloody high though.
Yeah, the drug treatment regime isn't totally abnormal from what plenty of people have said.
I'm not sure about the drugs making him high tbh though, I mean he's obviously a sociopath (or more) anyway, and he might well also have a newly renewed sense of out of control ego, invincibility, and power that's fueling him rather than any drug side effects.
elbows
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Given that some of his standard response mechanisms appear to involve a degree of overcompensation that goes far into absurd territory with little attention to credibility, it would not surprise me if he currently still has the opposite of a feeling of invincibility and that side of his behaviour right now is a total front.
He thinks that showing any sign of weakness is the biggest mistake to make, not realising that the way he tries to cover up weakness ends up revealing many of his fundamental weaknesses.
hegley
never odd or even
Your wish seems to have come true - and Twitter is a joy to read this morning.
It's probably what it appears to be. He got mild Covid symptoms and spent a couple of nights in hospital probably just as a precautionary measure and now he's bragging about how easy it was to defeat it. To great public harm. Just because there's various petty half arsed deceptions about eg. being on Oxygen for a bit, doesn't mean there's some big secret that's being concealed. Trump's MO is petty half arsed deceptions.
Most people including overweight septuagenarians survive the illness without being on death's door, it's just the relatively small number who don't translate into some very big numbers when it's scaled up. That's why it's usually just bloody irritating when a twonk like Trump catches it and with a twonk as influential as Trump it's also really bloody dangerous for public health. I wasn't cheering when I heard the news.
Btw he's also almost certainly lost the election and would very likely have lost it anyway regardless of this little corona episode.
Most people including overweight septuagenarians survive the illness without being on death's door, it's just the relatively small number who don't translate into some very big numbers when it's scaled up. That's why it's usually just bloody irritating when a twonk like Trump catches it and with a twonk as influential as Trump it's also really bloody dangerous for public health. I wasn't cheering when I heard the news.
Btw he's also almost certainly lost the election and would very likely have lost it anyway regardless of this little corona episode.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Nice!
But now I'm conflicted. I asked Santa for this for xmas and also asked Satan as a 'just in case'... Now I'm not sure whether to leave some mince pies and milk under a fir tree or sacrifice a virgin to express my gratitude...
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Nice!
But now I'm conflicted. I asked Santa for this for xmas and also asked Satan as a 'just in case'... Now I'm not sure whether to leave some mince pies and milk under a fir tree or sacrifice a virgin to express my gratitude...
Better do both just in case.
You could sacrifice Ann Widdecombe.Nice!
But now I'm conflicted. I asked Santa for this for xmas and also asked Satan as a 'just in case'... Now I'm not sure whether to leave some mince pies and milk under a fir tree or sacrifice a virgin to express my gratitude...
I had dexamethasone eye drops for about a year, several times a day. It is a really common drug for lots of things, almost like being prescribed paracetamol, not some experimental drug. It def did not make me high in the slightest.
prunus
Tick tock.
Nice!
But now I'm conflicted. I asked Santa for this for xmas and also asked Satan as a 'just in case'... Now I'm not sure whether to leave some mince pies and milk under a fir tree or sacrifice a virgin to express my gratitude...
Give some mince pies to a virgin, cover all the bases.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Nope - he's tested positive!
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I want him to live long enough to be roundly rejected by the voters in November, and for the SCOTUS to order Trump's tax returns to be released to the Manhattan DA (he won another judgment today) so his final hours/days are ones of defeat, humiliation and misery..
I most definitely do not want Trump to die before Nov 3rd, because Pence comes across as sane, competent and rational compared to Trump, and the Republicans might just sneak it on a sympathy vote.
In truth, pence would be just as bad. A thoroughly nasty bit of work.
SpineyNorman
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I just want him to die. The timing is secondary so long as it's in the next few months.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Yes - plexiglass screens and 12ft distance
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Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Even though I am a lifelong Gooner, I would not wish to cheapen the memory of The very great John White by having it bracketed with that of Trump
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
Dexamethasone in high enough doses certainly does make you hyper-speedy (elated / excited / wide awake / very hungry / energetic / feeling damn near invincible) - I was taking it weekly for months during chemotherapy, where it's given to tide you over the day of chemo itself and a few days after - during which time you feel weirdly good - and then you crash heavily as soon as you're off it. It's mind-altering indeed, but only in the sense of 'you, only more so and with more energy', rather than turning you into a whole new person who sees pink rabbits in daylight. It could very well be affecting - or exaggerating - Trump's usual style but it won't be giving him entirely new, undreamed-of ideas.
"Regeneron" - saw a lengthy (1-2 minute) unedited clip of DT going on about this yesterday and oh wasn't he so careful to namecheck it at least half a dozen times in under 30 secs, along with lots of handwaving about wonderful Eli Lilley and wonderful Pfizer and great American expertise and how he was personally going to make sure every American Covid patient gets Regeneron (remember that name folks, Regeneron) treatment for free and so on and on and on. Absolutely sounded like a late night infomercial, which in a way I suppose was the point. (Also: so painfully obviously the name appeals to those with fragile masculinity and anxiety about ageing .... Regeneron ... makes you virile again... makes you young again.... arghghghghg)
"Regeneron" - saw a lengthy (1-2 minute) unedited clip of DT going on about this yesterday and oh wasn't he so careful to namecheck it at least half a dozen times in under 30 secs, along with lots of handwaving about wonderful Eli Lilley and wonderful Pfizer and great American expertise and how he was personally going to make sure every American Covid patient gets Regeneron (remember that name folks, Regeneron) treatment for free and so on and on and on. Absolutely sounded like a late night infomercial, which in a way I suppose was the point. (Also: so painfully obviously the name appeals to those with fragile masculinity and anxiety about ageing .... Regeneron ... makes you virile again... makes you young again.... arghghghghg)
hash tag
Books, not bombs
On Radio 4 last night Kara Swisher said "tossing Donald trump off was a big mistake" 
@ 09:40 The World Tonight - 25/04/2022 - BBC Sounds
@ 09:40 The World Tonight - 25/04/2022 - BBC Sounds
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