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Tout exposed Mark 'Stone/Kennedy' exposed as undercover police officer

laptop said:
The Guardian reports assume that activists are among the readership; and they noted that some activists had their suspicions beforehand.

Other papers boiled the story down to the dramatic moment when the passport was found.
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From what I heard the passport raised suspicions among his freinds - they did some digging and got hold of his marrige certificate which had his job listed as 'police officer' - so he was bang to rights rather then coughing up due to a guilty conscience. He offered to name names of other undercover cops and stool pigeons - but he was (rightly) turned down as they felt he was just to continue to fuck them around.

Interesting question as to weather he was MI5 or not ...

IMO it doesn't pay to get too tied up in knots over undercover plod. We know they are there and may well attempt to stir shit within an organisations - but most political activism is public. Direct Action of the type carried out by earth frist et al is gerenally about carring out symbolic actions to publicise an issue rather then to have an actual effect on the state or big busines. The state feels fit to spend millions infiltrating such groups - but they have very little effect on their activism other than casuing the occasional action to be thwarted - they cant stop thousands turning up to protest, or blocade or picket.

The worst thing about this case is not just that people have been convictied of the back of his actions - its also the emotional trauma he has inflicted on those he was closest too. Imagine finding out that your lover of several years was leading a double life all the time - not just secretly married, but faked his entire realtionship with you in order to snitch on you and your friends to the cops? That sort of shit could break people.

If it was me I'd be looking for hefty compensation from the police (or whoever ...)
 
Undercover cops becoming lovers of activists is nothing new. I can't name a person who I know this happened to but for sure it affected her and still does.

As for undercover cops generally, never trust a man with a van! ;)
 
SpookyFrank said:
Trouble is nobody could trust anything he said. Imagine he gives the names of, say, half a dozen 'undercover officers'; these could be any random people he's met on his travels and knows to be well trusted and well connected. With that single act he could destroy protest groups and even more people's lives.
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I totally agree: hence my use of the word corroborated. His word, alone, is as worthwhile as (say) David Shayler/Annie Machon's--zero credibility, unless verified. That he now seems to be working for another outfit underlines that.
 
rioted said:
Gullible fool.

And to describe the key characters as "hirsute" shows both total ignorance and pathetic bigotry.

:)
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Fuck you, bigotry LOL!

Look at the bug eyed cunt.

And don't call me gullible - I wasn't the one being driven around by a copper for ten years!

He must have been good on the stake-outs at Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station, though - one eye on the pot smokers and the other up the chimney!

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Fascinating story. When is the film out???

I can't help but feel a bit sad for him now. As others have said...things are going to be a bit difficult from now on.
 
Kaka Tim said:
From what I heard the passport raised suspicions among his freinds - they did some digging and got hold of his marrige certificate which had his job listed as 'police officer' - so he was bang to rights rather then coughing up due to a guilty conscience. He offered to name names of other undercover cops and stool pigeons - but he was (rightly) turned down as they felt he was just to continue to fuck them around.

Interesting question as to weather he was MI5 or not ...

IMO it doesn't pay to get too tied up in knots over undercover plod. We know they are there and may well attempt to stir shit within an organisations - but most political activism is public. Direct Action of the type carried out by earth frist et al is gerenally about carring out symbolic actions to publicise an issue rather then to have an actual effect on the state or big busines. The state feels fit to spend millions infiltrating such groups - but they have very little effect on their activism other than casuing the occasional action to be thwarted - they cant stop thousands turning up to protest, or blocade or picket.

The worst thing about this case is not just that people have been convictied of the back of his actions - its also the emotional trauma he has inflicted on those he was closest too. Imagine finding out that your lover of several years was leading a double life all the time - not just secretly married, but faked his entire realtionship with you in order to snitch on you and your friends to the cops? That sort of shit could break people.

If it was me I'd be looking for hefty compensation from the police (or whoever ...)
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This post alone has given me far more insights into this story than anything else I've managed to read so far, and I've only been able to catch up with limited bits of this thread. I know there'll be many other informative posts when I get time.

Ta for that KT, will play proper catch up ASAP. Fascinating stuff.
 
TopCat said:
As for undercover cops generally, never trust a man with a van! ;)
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I had a luton van. Thames Valley Police stole it as evidence and when ordered to return it it was so fucked that it was unroadworthy. Should I shoot myself or sue TVP?
 
Spanky Longhorn said:
Tell us more...
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...mark-kennedy-exposed-after-he-quit-the-met.do

An undercover policeman who infiltrated eco-activists was exposed after he resigned from the force and began working for a private security firm, it emerged today.

Mark Kennedy had left the Met seven months earlier and joined a company run by former Special Branch detectives.

The firm is thought to have provided intelligence to corporate clients in the energy business.

Sources said that his real identity was uncovered after he resigned from the force in March last year and had to hand back his fake documents.
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Open Sauce said:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...mark-kennedy-exposed-after-he-quit-the-met.do
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An undercover policeman who infiltrated eco-activists was exposed after he resigned from the force and began working for a private security firm, it emerged today.

Mark Kennedy had left the Met seven months earlier and joined a company run by former Special Branch detectives.

The firm is thought to have provided intelligence to corporate clients in the energy business.

Sources said that his real identity was uncovered after he resigned from the force in March last year and had to hand back his fake documents.

Mr Kennedy went back undercover for his corporate clients but had to operate without the back-up of police colleagues. One source said he even reverted to using his real name.

An insider said: “He thought he could make some money in the private sector and tried to get back in but was discovered.”
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Is this right??? That's in the reverse order of what all the other papers where saying??
 
Tricked, betrayed, violated: did police spy use sex to win activists' trust?
Woman questions motives of PC Mark Kennedy's relationships while he spent seven years undercover in the protest community

Tonight, a woman came forward to add to accusations that Kennedy in his undercover role had sexual relationships with women in the protest movement. Her allegations raise important questions for his senior police handlers about his conduct while operating undercover.

Giving details about how Kennedy gained her trust and slept with her many times over the course of a year, Anna, 26, said she felt "violated" by the actions of the police officer.

She now questions whether the British police have allowed a string of undercover agents to use sex as a "tactic" to disrupt and glean information about environmental campaigns.

A foreign national who has been active in the environmental movement throughout Europe, Anna said she met Kennedy in 2005 when she was 21.

"As far as I knew, he was very well connected and very active. He was very keen to help out in any way he could with our campaign. We met in London, and obviously as he was very active in everything I was doing we ended up spending a lot of time together."

She said she developed a sexual relationship with the undercover police officer, and had sex with him more than 20 times during that period.

"This movement is a small clique, so it is not difficult to run into the same people in various different situations. I also met him at various protests, for example in Germany, Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands and Iceland."
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pk said:
Look at the bug eyed cunt.
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On the thead about the kid sent down for 32 months you described him as a 'fat fuck'. On this thread you describe this man as 'bug eyed'.

Are you incapable of slating someone without resoriting to petty, childish appearance attacks? It makes me doubt wether you actually have any valid opinions, or wether you are just one of those saddos who likes to spunk what they think is testrone over the interent.
 
Garek said:
On the thead about the kid sent down for 32 months you described him as a 'fat fuck'. On this thread you describe this man as 'bug eyed'.

Are you incapable of slating someone without resoriting to petty, childish appearance attacks? It makes me doubt wether you actually have any valid opinions, or wether you are just one of those saddos who likes to spunk what they think is testrone over the interent.
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Do you really know who you are messing with here?
 
A thought on the MI5/6 ideas being kicked around here. This guy started off in 2003, back then those two had a pretty full plate with Iraq, Afghanistan and the early post 9/11 world. A more plausible story would be a normal police operation was developing leads abroad that the Met were allowed to pursue as they had the resource and budget available while the traditional intelligence services had people trying to gain access to Badr Brigade and al Queda, eco hippies may not have featured on their priorities. This looks far more like an operation that lost focus, became too ambitious and ended burning out the copper ('operative' is just making him sound cool). He was too deep, too long on the wrong type of target for the handling skills of the Met used to short inserts. Look at the policing of a big demo like Climate Camp Heathrow, Kingsnorth or that. They are multi million pound events, plus he was getting info on lots of small demos as well. His entire annual budget could be repaid once a year by heading off a small banner drop and occupation of a power station. The Ratcliffe protest that was busted down would have cost Notts fucktoons of dosh. Plus if he was getting good info on European groups the Met and ACPO probably felt like Billy Big Bollox, all John le Carre and shit doing foreign intel without the experience of how to ensure you don’t end up with the German parliament asking questions about who you were shagging.

Id vote for a Met clusterfuck rather than MI6 cover up. Feel free to disagree.
 
mincepie said:
Is this right??? That's in the reverse order of what all the other papers where saying??
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I'm not sure it is in reverse, or just more specific. I don't think any of the other coverage claims proof was found that he was currently a police officer, just evidence that he had listed it as his occupation at one (or more) time.
 
So this guy was feeding the information to the police and companies about how serious the protests were, possibly influencing those protests (almost certainly) and now works to earn money from companies affected by these protests.

How many others of those who have been in a position to influence police priorities in terms of protests have subsequently financially benefitted from companies affected by those protests?

On the 7th of July 2005 people known to the police committed atrocity bombing, the police did not have the resources to investigate those involved. Did having half an eye on post police income influence the decisions that allowed those perpetrators to slip the net?
 
If he hasn’t had a “change of heart” then did he deliberately collapse a trail to maintain a personal income stream?

E2A

Notts police service may take an interest in this, can anyone advise if this would allow a re-opening of the case against the protesters; certainly criminal charges against Kennedy are possible if this is true, but its not worth the candle if the protesters get done.
 
ferrelhadley said:
On the 7th of July 2005 people known to the police committed atrocity bombing, the police did not have the resources to investigate those involved. Did having half an eye on post police income influence the decisions that allowed those perpetrators to slip the net?
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Is the Counter-Terror industry worth more than the Counter-Protest industry?
 
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