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Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'

do think maybe it should not be a perma ban

as i do like Cheesy but showing support for Fash should get you a ban on here

surprised Rsf was allowed go so long as it was clearly an attempt an alt right name check Bingo
 
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do think maybe it should not be a perma ban

as i do like Cheesy but showing support for Fash should get you a ban on here

surprised Rsf was allowed go so long as it was clearly an attempt an alt right name check Bingo

Actual racism/offensiveness should get you a ban, but not simply being a 'fan' of someone. Also just adds to the whole martyr thing, which the right love to claim. Sod that.
 
Actual racism/offensiveness should get you a ban, but not simply being a 'fan' of someone. Also just adds to the whole martyr thing, which the right love to claim. Sod that.

maybe i'm blinkered but if you on here saying "free Tommy" and meaning that shit maybe its time for an enforced holiday as you clearly dropped down a rabbithole of being a fucking asshat

"oh he just randomly stubbled into many groups that are known for being like to Fash/racist groups"


:hmm:
 
A relatively large number of people on the demonstration carried Hamas or other Islamist placards and banners. There was some shouting of Allahu akbar, but from what I can gather there were no anti-semitic slogans shouted. Though Weyman Bennett of the SWP’s central committee was heard demanding that Israeli Jews “should go back to where they came from … New York or wherever

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/752/marchingforgaza.html


Robinson didn't look very well,

I see Weyman Bennet was outside, SWP/UAF/SUTR, in 2009, he was cited as saying the above by the CPGB, in Hyde Park 2009, no otther witnesses

and yes i still think it is worth putting here.

link dead

Speaking out against the slur of antisemitism

There was also this Conference in 2016, where many of the controversies around A/S were discussed, many of the individuals backing Corbyn on it were present, inc challenging the IHRA defintions of AS.
 
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maybe i'm blinkered but if you on here saying "free Tommy" and meaning that shit maybe its time for an enforced holiday as you clearly dropped down a rabbithole of being a fucking asshat

"oh he just randomly stubbled into many groups that are known for being like to Fash/racist groups"


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Another argument is that if Cheesy trots off to a far right forum where only far right views are heard, she'll never be 'saved'. Ghettoising of political views isn't healthy.
 
Another argument is that if Cheesy trots off to a far right forum where only far right views are heard, she'll never be 'saved'. Ghettoising of political views isn't healthy.

Come off it. Cheesy has been a member here for many years. She has/had good mates here too, none of which are alt-right fawning fan-girls/boys who have gone from obsessing over Prince/Milo/Pete Doherty to coming out in support of the likes of TR. If being here for all this time couldn't stop her disappearing up her own arse and into the clutches of fash, keeping her around won't either.

If you want to save her off you go.
 
Another argument is that if Cheesy trots off to a far right forum where only far right views are heard, she'll never be 'saved'. Ghettoising of political views isn't healthy.

i'd rather have seen her here getting the full treatment and maybe reconsidering her viewpoint

but as has been said how is that going to help her when she been here over 10 years
 
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One thing about these types that I always find odd is they tend to think that being a parent sort of gives them the right to hold dodgy views

Wtf is the logic "yay my dick works now I can be fash without anyone being able to pull me on it "

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You seem to want to make a case for her to be un-banned...what do you think about the other points I made above in that regard?

The stuff about her obsessing? I just think bans, particularly perma ones, should be saved for the worst of the worst, for all the reasons I've given above. I haven't seen Cheesy make any actual racist comments on here, just the stuff that implies she has some sympathy for TR. I'm sure people who've said or done worse things have been allowed to continue to post on here. She's all over the place, but that's part of her "charm". :hmm: Anyway, this discussion is probably a pointless, given the decision has been made.
 
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