Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'

[The39thStep]

The wonders of Microsoft translate on Twitter

Mascha de Jong‏ @maschadejong 27m27 minutes ago



Veroordeling #Tommyrobinson werd uit de media gehouden. Het stoort de protest-deelnemers dat er wordt gesproken van ‘Aziatische’ verkrachters, die veelal blanke Britse vrouwen tot slachtoffer maken. ‘Je zal Vietnamese loempiaverkoper zijn. Het gaat om Islamitische daders.’



Translated from Dutch by Microsoft

Condemnation #Tommyrobinson was taken out of the media. It disturbs the protest participants that there is talk of ' Asian ' rapists, who often make white British women a victim. ' You will be Vietnamese egg roll seller. It is about Islamic perpetrators. '

 

[treefrog]

Their ex-leader Jamie Whyte is Director of Research at the UK free market loony Institute for Economic Affairs. They stick together, this lot.

So that's where he went! I wondered why I hadn't seen the odious little shitbag's reckons touted around here.

 

[treelover]

Nothing in the Guardian, BBC, the thing is, if these people don't get the coverage they think they deserve, they will become more radical in order to get their message out.

 

[treelover]

Steve Hedley attacked, they must have known who he was.

 

[The39thStep]

Apparently Steve Hedley Asst Gen Sec of the RMT got attacked

 

[treelover]

 

[treelover]

Looks like the usual scuffles, except for Hedley who looks like he was targeted.

 

[andysays]

Steve Hedley attacked, they must have known who he was.

Looks like the usual scuffles, except for Hedley who looks like he was targeted.

How can you possibly know that?

 

[2hats]

There have been short (minute or two) items on the BBC news channel, Sky News and Channel 4 news in the last hour or so.

 

[Geri]

I heard they attacked the pub he was in.

 

[Geri]

Union leader attacked after counter-protest to Trump and Robinson rally

 

[treelover]

How can you possibly know that?

Witnesses said a mob ambushed two men at the Westminster Arms pub in central London on Sunday afternoon in a targeted attack.

 

[Toast Rider]

Union leader attacked by working class...seems utterly wrong headed to me. This is what the modern rhetoric of fascism has done to people. Meanwhile their hero Trump and of course Robinson won't be championing workers rights.

 

[treelover]

Time for what is left of the left to reorient themselves back to working class politics, though of course that is what the RMT do, no wonder they were targeted.

 

[Toast Rider]

Time for what is left of the left to reorient themselves back to working class politics, though of course that is what the RMT do, no wonder they were targeted.

wholeheartedly agree

 

[smokedout]

Union leader attacked after counter-protest to Trump and Robinson rally

I saw this, it was a pretty vicious atttack, not sure Steve Hedlley was targeted specifically, but it's hard to say. Came round the corner, saw a mob of blokes charge at the pub lobbing bottles and chairs,a bunch of people fought back but it was nasty, quite a few injuries on both sides. It was hard to know which side was which until it was over and at first I thought it was fash on fash, didn;t last long but was pretty full on.

What was depressing on going back to Pariament Square and news of this was starting to filter out is that the main anti-fascist block chose that moment to march away from the square, pointlessly heading towards Victoria Station where the march dispersed. On heading back it appeared a couple of hundred far right had taken Trafalgar Square, holding up 'rapeugee' banners and chanting whose streets our streets, whilst the square and the nearest pub (chandos) was full of alt right types and Trump supporters completely unopposed and declaring victory. So not really a great day for anti-fascism, a fucking embarrassment in fact given the number were pretty even.

 

[treelover]

Is that the first time the Chandos has been held by the far right.

 

[Toast Rider]

I saw this, it was a pretty vicious atttack, not sure Steve Hedlley was targeted specifically, but it's hard to say. Came round the corner, saw a mob of blokes charge at the pub lobbing bottles and chairs,a bunch of people fought back but it was nasty, quite a few injuries on both sides. It was hard to know which side was which until it was over and at first I thought it was fash on fash, didn;t last long but was pretty full on.

What was depressing on going back to Pariament Square and news of this was starting to filter out is that the main anti-fascist block chose that moment to march away from the square, pointlessly heading towards Victoria Station where the march dispersed. On heading back it appeared a couple of hundred far right had taken Trafalgar Square, holding up 'rapeugee' banners and chanting whose streets our streets, whilst the square and the nearest pub (chandos) was full of alt right types and Trump supporters completely unopposed and declaring victory. So not really a great day for anti-fascism, a fucking embarrassment in fact given the number were pretty even.

So now the fascists are trying to claim antifa slogans?

 

[treelover]

i mentioned that with other far right protests

 

[treelover]

oday 40 Far Right scum attacked a group of RMT including retired members after their #freetommy demo. They failed to get into the pub and got back twice what they gave despite the advantage of surprise and numbers. Furthermore, by demonstrating clearly their anti worker instinct they have scored a huge own goal: already hugely down in numbers on their last demo, if they dare to pull this shit again they will face a rejuvenated and enraged opposition.

We send a salute to Assistant General Secretary Steve Hedley who called it from the start in his speech about the true agenda of the opposition - and then stood by his words putting up frontline resistance. We urge all to follow his example.

Red |London FB, pensioners attacked as well.

 

[Pickman's model]

Is that the first time the Chandos has been held by the far right.

Who knows?

So now the fascists are trying to claim antifa slogans?

when they do nick an antifa slogan I'll be sure to let you know

 

[SpookyFrank]

So now the fascists are trying to claim antifa slogans?

I don't care about slogans but if there are people targeting w/c organisers that is cause for grave concern.

 

[Geri]

I saw this, it was a pretty vicious atttack, not sure Steve Hedlley was targeted specifically, but it's hard to say. Came round the corner, saw a mob of blokes charge at the pub lobbing bottles and chairs,a bunch of people fought back but it was nasty, quite a few injuries on both sides. It was hard to know which side was which until it was over and at first I thought it was fash on fash, didn;t last long but was pretty full on.

And where were the police? In Bristol the two sides can never get anywhere near each other.

 

[Red Sky]

And where were the police? In Bristol the two sides can never get anywhere near each other.

Haha.

 

[Red Sky]

Red |London FB, pensioners attacked as well.

Probably by pensioners judging by the state of the Free Tommy mob.

 

[Red Sky]

I saw this, it was a pretty vicious atttack, not sure Steve Hedlley was targeted specifically, but it's hard to say. Came round the corner, saw a mob of blokes charge at the pub lobbing bottles and chairs,a bunch of people fought back but it was nasty, quite a few injuries on both sides. It was hard to know which side was which until it was over and at first I thought it was fash on fash, didn;t last long but was pretty full on.

What was depressing on going back to Pariament Square and news of this was starting to filter out is that the main anti-fascist block chose that moment to march away from the square, pointlessly heading towards Victoria Station where the march dispersed. On heading back it appeared a couple of hundred far right had taken Trafalgar Square, holding up 'rapeugee' banners and chanting whose streets our streets, whilst the square and the nearest pub (chandos) was full of alt right types and Trump supporters completely unopposed and declaring victory. So not really a great day for anti-fascism, a fucking embarrassment in fact given the number were pretty even.

Anti fascists were never going to make it to Trafalgar Square in numbers. Not with the huge police presence. No doubt if they'd tried and got kettled and nicked the usual suspects would be on here talking about "an embarassment to anti fascism".

 

[smokedout]

Anti fascists were never going to make it to Trafalgar Square in numbers. Not with the huge police presence. No doubt if they'd tried and got kettled and nicked the usual suspects would be on here talking about "an embarassment to anti fascism".

So marching away from the fascists to a remote part of town, despite reports of violent attacks, and jumping on the train to go home was the best strategy then?

 

[dessiato]

I was in Trafalgar square when they first arrived. I went round telling people to keep away from the fascists. I almost put on my anti-Trump vest, but felt that discretion was a better part of valour.

 

[sealion]

Bits going off at the back of Victoria station earlier this evening, looked like small football mobs on the attack. TSG running about screaming and waving sticks at all and sundry.

 

[Red Sky]

So marching away from the fascists to a remote part of town, despite reports of violent attacks, and jumping on the train to go home was the best strategy then?

The fight at the pub was over before anyone moved off. Swamped by cops.