Working class done good. He makes a lot (in his book) of how Kev Carrol is a successful builder etc.
Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'
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Working class done good. He makes a lot (in his book) of how Kev Carrol is a successful builder etc.
So we have a bloke who can speak to ex-cons, tradesmen and family men. No wonder he has a platform.
Put like that i suppose not in many peoples eyes.
I just see him as a bit thuggish and obsessed.
Thinking about it now i suppose he must be making some sort of money out of all this.
I really do not know if he has a job, a business or what.
I do remember reading a while ago that he was found Guilty of Mortgage fraud.
Got me thinking he might somehow be involved in some sort of Property venture.
lots of shall we say "dodgy" characters in that game.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he's owned his own tanning business and been a company director. wouldn't be surprised if he had some more dubious ventures going on as well.
A spiv and a chancer. A type a lot of W/C people admire.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
without the good humour and charm of private walker
not-bono-ever
meh
see also farage
It’s amusing that this ‘voice of the working class’ never actually talks about the working class or working class issues (unless he can put a racial spin on it).
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
If it was one of our own I wouldn't see anything inherently wrong with the idea that any money's that are left over go to the family of the prisoner .
That's what makes it such a good ruse. The family coffers will be full for a while.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think there is some monies around backing him, the demos, sound equipment , video screens . However I don't think that's always been the case . Tanning shops tend to be income instead of a job rather than winning the lottery. Book sales , YouTube monetaryisation , book signing tours have prob been the main source of his income .
I can't wait for the tommy Robinson Race Hate Colouring In Book (forward by Katie Hopkins)
not-bono-ever
meh
Tanning shops are a well known and used laundering outlet* though - not that there is any indication this is the case here
*money not clothes obvs
*money not clothes obvs
I looked into YT monetisation through advertising recently and it doesn’t pay that well. Perhaps 80 pence per 1,000 views. So even if you’re lucky enough to get 100,000 views that’s a whopping eighty quid.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Don't suppose he gets much from book sales or book signing tours either. He might simply be very thrifty.
I suspect he has financial backing from interested parties.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Or an undeclared pharmaceutical business
At this stage he probably has to keep his nose clean (pun unintended) as the state would love to trip him up on something like that.
He would say that grooming gangs are a working class issue.
It is, but he’s only interested in it as there’s a racial angle to it. Does he have anything to say about jobs, healthcare or housing? Again, if he did, it would be about scapegoating Muslims/refugees/immigrants.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
And he would be right, but that doesn't undermine what Magnus is saying.
Robinson was also very keen on Newsnight (or similar?) on pointing out that most people on the show haven't a clue about what life is like in places like Luton.
I doubt he said "working class areas" specifically but the implication was definitely well-paid media luvvies are on a different planet from the rest of us.
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Fozzie Bear
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There's also the eternal issue of economic vs a very narrow cultural version of what working class is in the UK.
Farage gets to be working class (or at least resonating with it etc etc) by smoking a fag and drinking a pint outside a pub.
(Remember all those hilarious photos of mainstream politicians like Michael Gove looking clueless in pubs?)
Despite being a business owner, Robinson gets to be perceived as working class (or resonating with it etc etc) because he likes football, drinks lager and is racist.
Farage gets to be working class (or at least resonating with it etc etc) by smoking a fag and drinking a pint outside a pub.
(Remember all those hilarious photos of mainstream politicians like Michael Gove looking clueless in pubs?)
Despite being a business owner, Robinson gets to be perceived as working class (or resonating with it etc etc) because he likes football, drinks lager and is racist.
ska invita
back on the other side
Farage has an image of landed gentry: tweed jackets and warm beer. That resonates well with little Englanders, of all classes.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Fair point - maybe it's about "authenticity" really.
It’s because parts of the WC had issues around the EU/Immigration and UKIP were the only ones seen to be wanting to address it. I doubt he would otherwise have any appeal.
ska invita
back on the other side
I'd use Traditionalism, rather than authenticity...as well as footballs, spitfires and minis, that traditional idyll includes aristocrats (particularly in royal family mode) and picture box countryside imagery...and no foreigners of course. farage ticks a lot of those boxes.
ska invita
back on the other side
...I imagine some of the more advanced little Englanders might be put off by the Frenchness and non AngloSaxonness of his name, but you can't square every circle in a bullshit ideology
