Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'

[butchersapron]

Ermmm...no. Does your pathetic caricature of everyone else on the Left sustain you in your 3 a.m bouts of despair?

Does your pathetic caricature of everyone else on the Left

Oh no. pathetic caricaturery

sustain you

Yes

in your 3 a.m bouts of despair?

We all hear the hum at 4am

Some good hard lads will sort out this nonsense. They must be proper fit though. Approved and signed off like.

 

[Red Sky]

Does your pathetic caricature of everyone else on the Left

Oh no. pathetic caricaturery

sustain you

Yes

in your 3 a.m bouts of despair?

We all hear the hum at 4am

Some good hard lads will sort out this nonsense. They must be proper fit though. Approved and signed off like.

I'd stick to the IPA in the afternoon and only shift to the hard stuff in the evening if I were you.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Parts of the left caricature themselves far better than anyone else can.

 

[jimmer]

Small up for it groups roaming around chaotically would be regarded as a success by us, so why not them?

There would be times when we'd use that as a deliberate strategy, in this case it was happening because of an absence of strategy. It's also the direction of travel they're heading in as a movement, if in the space of a year we'd gone from having 15k out on a protest, to only have 1k, we'd feel quite deflated. The 'Tommy movement' is in decline and splitting, despite it's escalating rhetoric.

 

[butchersapron]

It must be strong/here/now because these people need it to be.

I mean, what you got otherwise?

 

[TopCat]

Small up for it groups wandering clueless around for us would be the sign of defeat. Is that what it looks line in the gyms - mirroring them, No politics?

Come on. Gyms are more credible than social centres or vegan cafes. Progress.

 

[Red Sky]

It must be strong/here/now because these people need it to be.

I mean, what you got otherwise?

More than you..

 

[butchersapron]

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[Red Sky]

There would be times when we'd use that as a deliberate strategy, in this case it was happening because of an absence of strategy. It's also the direction of travel they're heading in as a movement, if in the space of a year we'd gone from having 15k out on a protest, to only have 1k, we'd feel quite deflated. The 'Tommy movement' is in decline and splitting, despite it's escalating rhetoric.

That's largely down to his social media ban I reckon.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

There would be times when we'd use that as a deliberate strategy, in this case it was happening because of an absence of strategy. It's also the direction of travel they're heading in as a movement, if in the space of a year we'd gone from having 15k out on a protest, to only have 1k, we'd feel quite deflated. The 'Tommy movement' is in decline and splitting, despite it's escalating rhetoric.

Although it’s mad that a turnout of 1,000 is seen as pathetic nowadays, when I balked at that turnout in Newcastle in 2013 due to the bounce from Lee Rigby. It only takes some more shit from Islamist cunts for numbers to swell again further.

 

[TopCat]

Let's put the digs in the past and think to the future.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

You must be about six cans in by now I'm guessing.

Just to say though that it isn’t on to accuse someone of having an addiction, and it’s even worse mocking if it happens to be true. That said, what he said above. ^^

 

[Red Sky]

Just to say though that it isn’t on to accuse someone of having an addiction, and it’s even worse mocking if it happens to be true. That said, what he said above. ^^

Is this your safe spaces policy?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Is this your safe spaces policy?

If you can’t respond politically just give up.

 

[butchersapron]

If you can’t respond politically just give up.

Need a treadmill first.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

 

[butchersapron]

Anti-fascist strava - who is the best anti-fascist pump-merchant today#

nb: small man pointing out that it's 90% in the brain.

 

[Red Sky]

If you can’t respond politically just give up.

I'd respond politically if there was something to respond to.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I'd respond politically if there was something to respond to.

I think I made the argument previously where some of these ‘red gyms’ are just part of a scene rather than the community. No idea what his criticisms are but those were mine.

 

[Red Sky]

I think I made the argument previously where some of these ‘red gyms’ are just part of a scene than the community. No idea what his criticisms are but those were mine.

The "Red Gyms" thing is an odd phenomena. Some of them are trying to be community gyms, others self defence groups for activists, some are sat between the two.

Not sure what butchers thinks they are or why they've wound him up so much.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Anti-fascism as the end, rather than a tactic, maybe?

 

[Red Sky]

Anti-fascism as the end, rather than a tactic, maybe?

But who thinks that?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

But who thinks that?

I don’t know. People who spend their time in red gyms?

 

[Red Sky]

I don’t know. People who spend their time in red gyms?

I don't follow that at all. Most "Red Gyms" are an at most bi weekly meet up so it'd be difficult to spend much time there.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I don't follow that at all. Most "Red Gyms" are an at most bi weekly meet up so it'd be difficult to spend much time there.

What are their purpose?

 

[Red Sky]

What are their purpose?

Like I said, it varies. Some, 0161 and Solstar spring to mind, have tried to become community gyms. I know more about Solstar , but they don't come at things with a specifically "anti fascist" focus.

Other groups are self defence meet ups for activists e.g hunt sabs or anti fascists who might find themselves in physical confrontations.

There's a couple of trade union based boxing clubs about as well.

There's been a few Interclub style meet ups between the various gyms in London, Leeds, Manchester and Brighton.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

So keeping fit together? Nothing wrong with that.

 

[butchersapron]

Anti-fascism is a specialist skill and we provide the training.

 

[Red Sky]

So keeping fit together? Nothing wrong with that.

Apparently there is , at least in butchers deranged mind.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Apparently there is , at least in butchers deranged mind.

No idea why they’re called red gyms if they’re just mates training together.