Not that I'm aware of and if there was I can't imagine he'd endorse her views.
You'd think the left would want to build working class power wouldn't you.
Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'
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Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Not at this precise moment he wouldn't.
FridgeMagnet
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Outside the BBC apparently; cops have announced an official area.
There is also an area for counter protestors which looks like it will be a bit small. Not sure how many people will pay attention to the zones on either side anyway.
There is also an area for counter protestors which looks like it will be a bit small. Not sure how many people will pay attention to the zones on either side anyway.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Poor turnout by the Tomministas for ‘The Big One’ better turn out by anti fash but aside from a couple of skirmishes Police seemed to be on top.
FridgeMagnet
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Loads of cops around generally, including the usual helicopter but also TSG, horses and dogs, though didn't see anybody let the dogs out (yeah yeah, but actually it was quite hot and it can't be good for them to sit in a van). Generally they prevented any mass meeting of groups - there were some outlying Free Tommy folk who peeled off to heckle and make a half-hearted attempt to get closer, but the cops blocked them and the only one I saw get through had his flags taken off him and was furious. It was antifa who made the most effort but there were too many cops around. They got diverted via lots of side streets but never got into direct contact.
After the "official" rally (a big black bus outside the BBC run by tr dot news, with some speakers and bad poetry) there were lots of tommyists in the pubs around the area, and the hoolie contingent were wandering and looking for a fight, but there weren't a huge number of them.
I understand that later on, after a few stellas at the All Bar One on upper Regent Street, some thought it was a good idea to go down to Westminster Bridge and block it and also hijack a tourist bus.
After the "official" rally (a big black bus outside the BBC run by tr dot news, with some speakers and bad poetry) there were lots of tommyists in the pubs around the area, and the hoolie contingent were wandering and looking for a fight, but there weren't a huge number of them.
I understand that later on, after a few stellas at the All Bar One on upper Regent Street, some thought it was a good idea to go down to Westminster Bridge and block it and also hijack a tourist bus.
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FridgeMagnet
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They filled the area outside the church but no more. I'd say around a thousand, no more than two. About the same number of anti, maybe slightly less but hard to tell.
looks a fair few there
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I'd gone home by that point but the yellow vest lot routinely harass motorists so this isn't hard to believe.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Numbers are drastically down, no tactics, no leadership and to be frank they are just about there for the taking.
looks a fair few there
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Starry Wisdom
Several hundred
looks a fair few there
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think about 1000 tops
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
500 cunts
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Starry Wisdom
And you'd be less generous about the remainder
TopCat
Putin fanboy
RUPTLY were right in there all day with two operatives. When the Tommeh lot were on the Southbank it really brought back battle of waterlòo and frustration that after Waterloo we put up with this?
So there is a need for a street based anti fascist movement now?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
It was clear yesterday that the anti fash use of linked flag poles made it hard for the police to break them up and move them on.
The Tommeh supporters certainly outweighed the anti fash. The Tommeh lot spends ages as well staring and shouting at their phones and went on a long tiring stride up and down Regent Street. They did not have much of a clue and most did not know the streets.
Watching RUPTLY would have told what was happening. They had a camera team with the anti fash and with Tommeh lot.
The Tommeh supporters certainly outweighed the anti fash. The Tommeh lot spends ages as well staring and shouting at their phones and went on a long tiring stride up and down Regent Street. They did not have much of a clue and most did not know the streets.
Watching RUPTLY would have told what was happening. They had a camera team with the anti fash and with Tommeh lot.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There's a need for a lot of things imo but small steps at a time. 1) physical opposition 2) working class based antifascism 3) building working class self help and confidence in communities vulnerable to the far right. 4)building FLAF at football clubs
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
1-3 aren't small steps, and arguably 4 isn't either
The first step before physical opposition is locate the enemy.
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Starry Wisdom
Tbh cop medics can be the most vicious of the lot, I'd shed no tears for him
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
You think thats a problem?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it is a good first step and if you think about it you might find it not so simple. Do you really think finding the fash and attacking them is always a good idea? You need to know where other forces are, eg the cops, because you don't want to smack the fascists in front of them. It tends to lead to legal difficulties if you do.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll tell FLAF this, they might find it useful.
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Starry Wisdom
Yeh tell them how in your plan building FLAF comes after 3 very big steps iyo. That'll impress them.
One (former) poster thought that having a pop at the fash in Tower hamlets was just to do with finding them and twatting them and led a load of inexperienced people to glorious arrest iirc. The same man thought it a great idea to charge through police lines in Croydon leading er to another daft nicking. This was someone who at the time had two or three years being involved in anti-fascist activity.
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They tweeted something about all being on holiday.
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