Toby Young is a c0nt

[Raheem]

That's the thing with these "entertaining" contrarians like Young, his mate boris johnson and Ress Mogg - they are not joking when they come out with their shit, its what they actually believe.

Tbf they don't do it with a cymbal crash or anything.

 

[Dogsauce]

Johnson's brother appointed Young, all part of some cosy clique of far-right elitists. It's all a fucking game for them, like they're still playing devil's advocate at some posh school debating club, only they mean it now and there's real lives/power involved.

 

[tim]

I wouldn't be so sure. I think there's a lot of people in this government who take the attitude that there's nothing wrong with what he's said and done, but in order to keep the electorate sweet, some compromises have to be made. It may end up being the case that he's too toxic to put out in the front line, but I strongly doubt that any lessons are being learned.

One lesson certainly learnt is don't give Toby young a job. He's always had plenty of enemies and this will have given him a few more. The Tories really aren't that nice to each other.

 

[teqniq]

Here's the Private Eye bit on it (kinda looks like they worked with the London Student journo on this)

That is just disgusting.

 

[existentialist]

One lesson certainly learnt is don't give Toby young a job. He's always had plenty of enemies and this will have given him a few more. The Tories really aren't that nice to each other.

"Nice" is a concept it's very hard to shove a pound sign in front of - why on earth would Tories consider it a commodity of any value?

 

[teqniq]

In the wake of the most recent revelations concerning this arsehole, someone has done a thread on eugenics on twitter ensuring at least for now that this doesn't entirely go away.

 

[Idris2002]

Johnson's brother appointed Young, all part of some cosy clique of far-right elitists. It's all a fucking game for them, like they're still playing devil's advocate at some posh school debating club, only they mean it now and there's real lives/power involved.

They always meant it. That's what their private schools were for.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Toby Young has had enough of being "slandered" and specifically of being called a "eugenicist". So he's written an article defending himself and his views by linking to an article in which he describes how he's in favour of eugenics!

 

[MightyTibberton]

I'm sort of hoping this is going to end up in court to be honest. He's slagged off a load of people for saying what they've said about him, and what they've said seems to be accurate - can you sue someone for libel if they incorrectly say you've libelled them?

 

[MightyTibberton]

I'm not in favour of killing off all of the Jews, just the poor and stupid. Liberals should love my progressive genocide.

 

[Quote]

He's a pisstain on the trousers of humanity.

Also, his take on eugenics is basically: 'the poor are so awful, but if they were given the chance to breed with upper class stock like me they might not be so fucking useless'. Which ignores the whole gamut of difficulties and issues that stop poorer people from rising to the heights that this fucking hemorrhoid was able to, despite having no intelligence, charm, wit, decency or empathy.

It's not down to eugenics or head measurements, it's because most people weren't born into cushy lives like you were, you odious eggheaded cunt. Had you any acquaintance with the real world beyond private schools, members clubs and old boys networks you'd be a better position to understand (and to pass judgement on those less fortunate than you).

 

[tim]

He's a pisstain on the trousers of humanity.

Had you any acquaintance with the real world beyond private schools, members clubs and old boys networks you'd be a better position to understand (and to pass judgement on those less fortunate than you).

Except of course he does have such an acquaintance, having been educated at comprehensive schools in London and the West Country;and got his first job on a YTS scheme. Perhaps he resents the fact that his upper--middle class parents chose not to him a posher education.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Except of course he does have such an acquaintance, having been educated at comprehensive schools in London and the West Country;and got his first job on a YTS scheme. Perhaps he resents the fact that his upper--middle class parents chose not to him a posher education.

I was thinking about this a bit today after reading his biog on Wikipedia.

I wondered if his family history might explain the attraction of eugenics to him. Because after that Rocky start he was rescued by a private school and got into Oxford after a phone call from his dad. Then he was parachuted into the top levels of journalism. But, despite all this stuff that reeks of nepotism he keeps ducking up, it almost looks like self sabotage.

I know this sort of psychoanalysis is useless in many ways, but you can't help wondering if someone with that history who adopts a deliberately repellent persona and then starts dabbling in fascist ideas is deeply ducked up in some way.

 

[Smangus]

thick as well as being a cont.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Except of course he does have such an acquaintance, having been educated at comprehensive schools in London and the West Country;and got his first job on a YTS scheme. Perhaps he resents the fact that his upper--middle class parents chose not to him a posher education.

Amateur psychology alert: he resents that he hasn't measured up to his father Michael, who drafted the 1945 Labour manifesto and set up the Open University, amongst other things. Everything is a reaction against, or a warped imitation of, that.

 

[Pickman's model]

He's a pisstain on the trousers of humanity.

Also, his take on eugenics is basically: 'the poor are so awful, but if they were given the chance to breed with upper class stock like me they might not be so fucking useless'. Which ignores the whole gamut of difficulties and issues that stop poorer people from rising to the heights that this fucking hemorrhoid was able to, despite having no intelligence, charm, wit, decency or empathy.

It's not down to eugenics or head measurements, it's because most people weren't born into cushy lives like you were, you odious eggheaded cunt. Had you any acquaintance with the real world beyond private schools, members clubs and old boys networks you'd be a better position to understand (and to pass judgement on those less fortunate than you).

his take on eugenics is that if people won't sleep with him they shouldn't be allowed to have children

 

[redsquirrel]

Amateur psychology alert: he resents that he hasn't measured up to his father Michael, who drafted the 1945 Labour manifesto and set up the Open University, amongst other things. Everything is a reaction against, or a warped imitation of, that.

Are you Robert Booth?

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Are you Robert Booth?

God damn it, I could have pitched my throwaway post on U75 to the bloody Guardian!

 

[stavros]

his take on eugenics is that if people won't sleep with him they shouldn't be allowed to have children

If he's having trouble finding someone to sleep with, may I suggest he go fuck himself?

 

[Pickman's model]

If he's having trouble finding someone to sleep with, may I suggest he go fuck himself?

 

[tim]

his take on eugenics is that if people won't sleep with him they shouldn't be allowed to have children

That's unfair. He is driven by nobler objectives.

His pioneering free school, despite its selective recruitment policy and the extra resources given it, is still only rated as mediocre. HIs hope that is having high IQ embryos implanted into the female population of the school catchment area might in the long-run result in OFSTED classifying it as an outstanding school.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh look the piece of shit didn't get the job on his own merits (say it aint so) but by shennanigans.
Ministers meddled in Toby Young getting OfS role, report finds
This bit should leave us in no doubt as to the role of the new body:

The commissioner also detailed the involvement of Downing Street special advisers in blocking nominees for the “student experience” role on the OfS board, who were blacklisted because of previous involvement with student unions and their expressed opposition to the government’s Prevent counter-extremism programme.

 

[not-bono-ever]

The front of these cunts is breathtaking

 

[agricola]

The front of these cunts is breathtaking

Especially when it benefits a eugenicist; that isn't survival of the fittest ffs.

 

[NoXion]

Almost as if they know that shit like eugenics is pseudoscientific bullshit or something.

 

[editor]

This a great Twitter spat where shitcunt Toby gets his arse delivered on a plate. The twat.



Click on for the all-star exchange. Even Mary Beard is in there was well as TobyBallSack.

 

[Mr Retro]

I think Lammy is doing really well lately. I like him a lot.

He posted an image of a card he was sent on Twitter yesterday. It was an image of a monkey on the front and you can guess the tone of the (obviously unsigned) message from there. It really pulled me up that a London man, fighting for Londoners, can get that kind of racial abuse in 2018.

 

[Poi E]

Really? You are surprised?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

So Roger Scruton is on record saying that date rape doesn't exist as well as a few other standard misogynist tropes and guess who is up defending him? Right, Toby Young.

The commentator Toby Young said it was “depressing to see the social media cops trawl through everything Roger Scruton’s ever written in the hope of finding things to be offended by”.

TBH this is really me just tacking this on to the end of an ongoing thread because of course it's the usual cunt parade out defending him, not just TY. Whom amongst us has not, at the tender age of 61, given a lecture to an American university in which they etc etc. I expect Brendan O'Neill has already written his first draft after having defended the Grenfell bonfire racists.

Historian Niall Ferguson praised Scruton as “the greatest living Englishman”, adding: “If only he could be prime minister.”

 

[Dogsauce]

Is anyone paying much attention to Tobes these days? He doesn’t seem to generate the hits with his contrarian bullshit anymore, it’s a crowded market for ringpieces out there.