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Titanic tourist sub missing
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'd wager that green is also a poor choice, given how I've seen the sea looking that colour too.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I feel attacked by this post.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I'll have my people call your people
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Someone with the mentality of a 18 year old could probably do it tbh
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Having has the dubious pleasure of watching the South Atlantic for 12 hours or so out the back of a Hercules (Blessed be her Sacred Memory), I can safely say than anything blue, grey, green or white - or indeed anything not bright yellow, bright pink, or bright orange - is going to remain as unseen as the contents of my wallet at a Tory party fundraiser.
I think it's supposed to sit just under the surface, so even if it's white, it'll have a grey/green look from above.
Might as well be on the far side of the moon.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I never had much desire to go up Everest but any remaining desire was removed by the realisation that to reach the summit you have to walk past dozens of corpses.
Cid
Proper break this time
Yes, those subs exist, they're just expensive. That's what appears to have been Rush's problem; trying to do everything on the cheap - too many people to use a spherical design, saving weight by using carbon fibre, using off the shelf parts (which isn't inherently wrong of course, just maybe not the shelves of your local hardware store).
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Its considered bad luck to paint an ocean going boat green.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Well said . Probably Freemasons tbh
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Combustible
Well-Known Member
Rigging one up with a PlayStation controller can't have been held to be a great omen.
Just fill up the yes column with the names of everyone who’s said ‘let them die’. There’s your wide choice of billionaires, with the right kind of stereotypical billionaire attitude/attributes to shine as onscreen under-the-sea-piloting-their-own-creation villains.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I've been pondering casting choice for the inevitable movie adaptation of this sea disaster and coming up blank
even more confused about the composite character you have to show in for Mark wahlberg to lead the thing
Is it a Disney production?
Who is the Walt? I think we should be told.
_Russ_ ?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Part of the reason for the higher death tolls is that more newbies with money are going. A lot of these are people who aren't ready physicially or mentally. Some of them have never done any real mountain climbing. Add to that higher temperatures that leave ice structures unstable and you've got a recipe for disaster.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I have mixed feelings about Sherpas. For the most part, these are men who are supporting their entire extended family. The only way they have of doing that is going up Everest. It shouldnt' be that way, but if the tourism industry went away, what would they do to support their family instead? At least the incredibly wealthy who go up Everest have recently been shamed into providing larger payouts to the family when a Sherpa dies.
Presumably the search has to yield a result in the next few hours? If the air runs out tomorrow around breakfast time UK, the early hours of the morning are the last point at which this thing could ever be lifted from wherever it is? So the equipment would need to be down there and firmly attached to it before midnight. So they don’t really have until tomorrow morning at all - they have until about dinner time tonight to be found, at the latest? I feel so sorry for the 19 year old as I type this - he should have his whole life ahead of him.
Cid
Proper break this time
For the ludites:
Nautile: France, 1984
Nautile - Wikipedia
Jiaolong: China, 2010
Jiaolong (submersible) - Wikipedia
Mir: Russia, 1987
Mir (submersible) - Wikipedia
Archimede: France, 1961(9.5 km in 1962, fuck that frankly)
Archimède - Wikipedia
DSV-4/Sea Cliff: US, 1990s, although its sister/class ship Alvin is from 1964
DSV Sea Cliff - Wikipedia
Deepsea Challenger: Australia, 2012 - This one was the one James Cameron used to reach Challenger deep.
Deepsea Challenger - Wikipedia
Konsul (class): Russia, 1992
Konsul-class submersible - Wikipedia
Trieste: France, this one is fucking wild, 1958, reached Challenger deep in 1960
Trieste (bathyscaphe) - Wikipedia
DSV Shinkai 6500: Japan, 1989
DSV Shinkai 6500 - Wikipedia
DSV Limiting factor (yes, Banks getting roped in again)/Triton 36000/2: US/private (company owned by Gabe Newell), 2018
DSV Limiting Factor - Wikipedia
All of those I think have been sub 6km, which is significantly deeper than the Titanic. It shows there are established technologies that can get you to those depths fairly reliably. It's just they tend to involve small spheres that aren't really adequate for paying passengers unless you charge a shitload.
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Some do move on to other things. Fergie had a Sherpa servant she brought back from her trek up the Himalayas, to act as her exotic house pet/ornamental tea pourer. Although whether being a picturesque dogsbody for the Yorks is worse than working Mount Everest is a matter of opinion.
Hollis
bloody furious
Brainy, you might find this table useful if you're considering doing an 8000m+ when you come into the money..
Eight Thousanders (8000ers) - The Highest Mountains On Earth
Depending on your risk appetite Cho Oyu looks like a good option.
Cid
Proper break this time
I'm not sure the tourism to the world's highest mountain would vanish if you placed some limits on ascents. And don't really know enough to do the subject justice. But broadly I think they'd like more of a share in the profits of adventuring companies, at least improved levels of safety etc. I need to get back to work, someone else might be able to go more in-depth.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I'd rather take my chances on the mountain.
I think I would too.
But if it’s a haunt of billionaires, they do have the opportunity to meet their ticket off the mountain, which is more than many have even in developed countries, so I don’t feel too sorry for them.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Good for them. Good luck to them.
2hats
Dust.
Whitecaps, breaking waves appear white due to the scattering of all wavelengths of visible light by both the droplets of water they generate above the air-water interface, but also the air bubbles that their turbulence entrains in the water sub-surface (plumes of which can then tend to persist for a short time thereafter: can be as long as a few minutes). This is a Mie or non-molecular scattering regime - the scatterer particle sizes are similar to or larger than the incident radiation wavelength. Here, forward scattering typically tends to bring all wavelengths back towards the observer so the point of interest appears white (or some shade of light grey). The phenomena is frequently visible in the lower atmosphere (eg haze arising due to various particulates).
Hence high vis red, orange or yellow for SAR related activities (note: human visual response peaks in the green/yellow, but yellow would be preferred as it stands out better in many natural landscapes).
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I still retain an admiration for people who can do these extreme things, doing things that the human body wasn't really designed to do. But Everest has always been problematic as a colonialist adventure, essentially using poor workers as their servants and exposing them to massive risks. And as you say, the number of people who have died there, well, it's probably best to just leave the fucking place alone.
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