Titanic tourist sub missing

[Duncan2]

tbf even before this shenanigans they wouldn't have wanted somebody going all claustrophobic and trying to open the hatch when they were on the way down.

Beggars belief that they let a probably quite inexperienced nineteen year old be bolted into a steel coffin

 

[pbsmooth]

fuck. reading the last posts and remembering again what a horrific way to go/how they must be feeling. they are actual humans and all that, despite being cunts etc.
maybe they would have beaten the CEO guy to death? quite a tight space for a ding-dong and you'd use up your oxygen. I mean, they died ages ago didn't they? proper nightmare fuel.

 

[Tanya1982]

I know what is missing now is a submersible as opposed to a submarine and it has just 5 people on board who opted to take the risk; it's still a bloody horrible way to go.
It reminds me of The Kursk, the Russian submarine on which 118 died.
Fancy going down to the depths of the ocean in a little tube, with very basic toilet facilities and just a curtain for privacy.

I’ve wondered if the curtain is still in use, or if they’ve decided they know each other well enough now to cast such coy suburban mores aside.

 

[redcogs]

i am haunted by the image of the falling man from the 9/11 catastrophe. i imagine he preferred to jump rather than be roasted. This sub sounds to have a few questionable design aspects, which remove from the crew some useful control features which may be life saving in the event of things going wrong..

 

[Duncan2]

Could they really have held it together sufficiently that all are not just alive sitting quietly to conserve air and tapping on the hull on the half hour.Not impossible I guess but quite a stretch

 

[frogwoman]

This is fucking horrible. I hope anyone on land involved in this company faces prosecution tbh.

 

[hash tag]

I’ve wondered if the curtain is still in use, or if they’ve decided they know each other well enough now to cast such coy suburban mores aside.

If you were to chose your last smell on this planet, it probably wouldn't be that toilet

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I don’t know anything about marine engineering but you never enter into a confined space without a fool proof escape plan. Disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Cid]

On the 'why doesn't it open?' side of things, water pressure would probably stop you from doing that in any case. I'm guessing you don't want a hatch that opens inward on something that has to cope with 390 bar of pressure. The assumption presumably being that if you can open it (i.e are at the surface) you should have working communications anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

i am haunted by the image of the falling man from the 9/11 catastrophe. i imagine he preferred to jump rather than be roasted. This sub sounds to have a few questionable design aspects, which remove from the crew some useful control features which may be life saving in the event of things going wrong..

I found the image of the falling couple the most poignant of that awful day. The unfortunate denizens of the Titanic site have had far longer to contemplate their doom

 

[redcogs]

Wasn't it ok to kill and eat the cabin boy if you were cast adrift and starving? Maybe a new update is required to allow for the killing of the heaviest multi millionaire breathers onboard a minisub venture? i realise this is quite a sick suggestion, but with the precedent already established why not. Similar rules could apply for space flight disasters (which are coming) involving the super wealthy.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I suppose the ‘best’ option would be that it lost contact because it imploded under the pressure causing instant death.

 

[hash tag]

I appreciate the thing cannot be opened from the inside that even if it did surface, they still have no way of letting air in.

 

[Pickman's model]

I suppose the ‘best’ option would be that it lost contact because it imploded under the pressure causing instant death.

And the banging is someone desperately trying to escape 3rd class in the titanic

 

[Pickman's model]

I appreciate the thing cannot be opened from the inside that even if it did surface, they still have no way of letting air in.

Awl or nothing

 

[hash tag]

Wasn't it ok to kill and eat the cabin boy if you were cast adrift and starving? Maybe a new update is required to allow for the killing of the heaviest multi millionaire breathers onboard a minisub venture? i realise this is quite a sick suggestion, but with the precedent already established why not. Similar rules could apply for space flight disasters (which are coming) involving the super wealthy.

This reminds of Hitchcock's Lifeboat ( a great film ).

 

[Cid]

I suppose the ‘best’ option would be that it lost contact because it imploded under the pressure causing instant death.

Almost certainly.

 

[WouldBe]

My (possibly mistaken) understanding is that they had a bunch of ballast that they could let go of, even in the event of an electrical failure. So my speculation is that they got themselves snagged on something down there, which is why they haven't surfaced even if they let go of the ballast.

The photo I saw earlier just had U shaped weights sat over the skids so you would have to tilt the sub to get them to fall off which would require power to operate the thrusters.

 

[TopCat]

Grim

 

[redcogs]

Only Urban has true creativity and the balls to voice it

 

[kebabking]

I think, on balance, that I'd rather be turned into a pink paste in .25 of a second without warning than suffocate over 4 days in a pitch black, freezing steel tube with some strangers - while watching one my children die - with the contents of their voided bowels slopping about.

Call me a bluff old conservative on this issue if you will....

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The photo I saw earlier just had U shaped weights sat over the skids so you would have to tilt the sub to get them to fall off which would require power to operate the thrusters.

I read that releasing the ballast could be done by the crew rocking the vessel. Of course it wouldn’t be possible if it was on the sea bed or the crew were incapacitated.

 

[Cid]

The photo I saw earlier just had U shaped weights sat over the skids so you would have to tilt the sub to get them to fall off which would require power to operate the thrusters.

I think David Pogue (CBS man) discussed this at one point but couldn't find yesterday? It had several failsafes; a controllable ballast release, ballast that can be released by tilting, a mechanism that would erode over extended contact with sea water. I seem to recall there were 7. I have no idea whether these were different systems to release the same ballast, and can't quite get my head around whether that would work or not? I mean it would work, but I'd guess you want to be able to dump all the ballast if needed.

 

[pbsmooth]

I suppose the ‘best’ option would be that it lost contact because it imploded under the pressure causing instant death.

I guess the bad option would likely be sitting still, not saying much, getting ever more sleepy and then slowly drifting off. but it probably takes some mental strength to even get to that point without the going mad phase.

 

[WouldBe]

tbf even before this shenanigans they wouldn't have wanted somebody going all claustrophobic and trying to open the hatch when they were on the way down.

Would probably be impossible due to the external pressure.

 

[Cid]

I think, on balance, that I'd rather be turned into a pink paste in .25 of a second without warning than suffocate over 4 days in a pitch black, freezing steel tube with some strangers - while watching one my children die - with the contents of their voided bowels slopping about.

Call me a bluff old conservative on this issue if you will....

Indeed. I'm only on 'almost certainly' because there's a slight chance of rescue.

 

[Cid]

I wonder if you could just close off the oxygen and open the nitrogen or something. Bleak thoughts.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I guess the bad option would likely be sitting still, not saying much, getting ever more sleepy and then slowly drifting off. but it probably takes some mental strength to even get to that point without the going mad phase.

It doesn’t bear thinking about.

 

[redcogs]

I read that releasing the ballast could be done by the crew rocking the vessel. Of course it wouldn’t be possible if it was on the sea bed or the crew were incapacitated.

The design specs of this vessel are hugely impressive? No ability to exit without external help. Deep sea capability rendering vessel almost impossible to reach to administer rescue. Co-ordinated rocking to release ballast. What fucking next? An incorporated log burning stove for use when temperature drops? Fuck me.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I wonder if you could just close off the oxygen and open the nitrogen or something. Bleak thoughts.

Or just turn off the carbon dioxide filter.