WouldBe
Dislicksick
Might be mistaken for a large seagull.
Probably used white as white paint is always cheaper than coloured paint.
Titanic tourist sub missing
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Probably used white as white paint is always cheaper than coloured paint.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Assuming that one billionaire acting in self interest hasn’t killed the other billionaire and maximised his oxygen potential?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Wondering how fast it would come up to the surface simply due to bouyancy? As all you would need is an rov to knock the counterweights off its skids. 
Might have been an idea to have the counterweights held in place by an electromagnet so in the event of an electrical failure the weights would be dropped and you'd come up automatically.
Might have been an idea to have the counterweights held in place by an electromagnet so in the event of an electrical failure the weights would be dropped and you'd come up automatically.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
There you go, another poster ruining a perfectly good thread by actually knowing what you are talking about.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Wondering how fast it would come up to the surface simply due to bouyancy? As all you would need is an rov to knock the counterweights off its skids.
Might have been an idea to have the counterweights held in place by an electromagnet so in the event of an electrical failure the weights would be dropped and you'd come up automatically.
My (possibly mistaken) understanding is that they had a bunch of ballast that they could let go of, even in the event of an electrical failure. So my speculation is that they got themselves snagged on something down there, which is why they haven't surfaced even if they let go of the ballast.
The guy on Sky seems pessimistic. The noises might just be shifting bits of wreckage or fittings and fixtures on the Titanic itself, which is apparently often noisy.
On the morning news, they said it was every half hour. Surely bits of the Titanic wouldn't be reliably collapsing each half hour on the half hour.
The Guardian has someone saying that they think it’s basically surfaced, and is no deeper than 120 ft which is evidently some kind of sonar barrier level.
On the morning news, they said it was every half hour. Surely bits of the Titanic wouldn't be reliably collapsing each half hour on the half hour.
The Guardian has someone saying that they think it’s basically surfaced, and is no deeper than 120 ft which is evidently some kind of sonar barrier level.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I see a lot of similarities in the Estonia & Titanic disasters. Thank you for posting this...Btw, should anyone want a read, this is the best article I’ve ever read about the Estonia.
A Sea Story
One of the worst maritime disasters in European history took place two decades ago. It remains very much in the public eye. On a stormy night on the Baltic Sea, more than 850 people lost their lives when a luxurious ferry sank below the waves. From a mass of material, including official and...www.theatlantic.com
You can do the archive thing with the link, I can’t be arsed.
And you’ll never get on a ferry again.
I can count on one hand the number I’ve been on, and never go below deck. It’s the reason I once spent the whole night wide awake and with a clear sight line to the exit on a ferry between Aberdeen and Lerwick, despite having had a cabin booked by my employer, and knowing I had a full day of work ahead of me starting as soon as I arrived. And on the way back, I paid out of my own pocket to fly instead. Shetland is not a couple of hours hop by sea, so I couldn’t face the return to the mainland by ferry, only to have another journey to London by road straight afterwards.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Btw, should anyone want a read, this is the best article I’ve ever read about the Estonia.
A Sea Story
One of the worst maritime disasters in European history took place two decades ago. It remains very much in the public eye. On a stormy night on the Baltic Sea, more than 850 people lost their lives when a luxurious ferry sank below the waves. From a mass of material, including official and...
You can do the archive thing with the link, I can’t be arsed.
And you’ll never get on a ferry again.
I can count on one hand the number I’ve been on, and never go below deck. It’s the reason I once spent the whole night wide awake and with a clear sight line to the exit on a ferry between Aberdeen and Lerwick, despite having had a cabin booked by my employer, and knowing I had a full day of work ahead of me starting as soon as I arrived. And on the way back, I paid out of my own pocket to fly instead. Shetland is not a couple of hours hop by sea, so I couldn’t face the return to the mainland by ferry, only to have another journey to London by road straight afterwards.
If your number is up... despite having been on the sailing before the sinking of the Herald of Free enterprise, we have used ferries many times since.
MS Herald of Free Enterprise - Wikipedia
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Why would a sub that has lost power be stuck at 120m down, when it had obviously gone a lot deeper than that (1h 45m) in the first place? Genuine question.
It’s a very atmospheric article. Real detail. Best read in daylight - from the technical side to the descriptions of the panic, chaos, fighting, robberies, decisions to leave relatives behind and and last sightings of the nearly escaped plunging down corridors that had become vertical shafts instead, it’s not nighttime reading.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Perhaps that's where its buoyancy evens out?
Despite having gone diving I have seemly forgotten most of what I know about this.
Perhaps it was designed to do so if 120m down takes you out of most of the motion you would find nearer the surface.
To me? I was just saying what The Guardian had reported as a contrast to Sky. The thinking seemed to be that it was no deeper than that, because the buoyancy stuff had done its job, even though the power itself had failed - hence missing without contact. That was how they explained the assessment of whatever expert had offered it. The reason for that conclusion was something to do with the sound barrier that the equipment dropped by the aircraft would expect to encounter otherwise.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
The BBC had someone with a similar opinion.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
No, not to you, to anyone. But thanks for offering an answer anyway.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
They can't. They are bolted in from the outside.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
I don't think there exit can open.
Plus even.if it did the water coming in would hit them like a truck. Then they would have to clamber out one by one. Then a 120 meter swim to the surface with no air.
Then don't die of exposure.
Then be spotted as tiny dots in the water rather than one big truck sized objects.
((Owl and the Pussy Cat))
Jeez what a great design feature
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The pressure changes would kill you.
In extremis it may be worth a try. If your boxygen is depleted and no other options are available?
Let’s hope so. It sounds much less bleak than being stuck at the bottom, and much easier for the rescue ship to sling a rope round when it’s eventually pinned down to a location.
They could buy more time with the oxygen by killing the cunt who they paid to put them in this predicament.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
For those wondering what's special from ~120m down, it's the summer thermocline. I'm not going to pretend I know all about it, just link to Wikipedia and run.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Thermocline - Wikipedia
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
tbf even before this shenanigans they wouldn't have wanted somebody going all claustrophobic and trying to open the hatch when they were on the way down.
i dont imagine a mini sub trip to be the best way for a claustrophobe to spend their holidays though but?
hash tag
Books, not bombs
I know what is missing now is a submersible as opposed to a submarine and it has just 5 people on board who opted to take the risk; it's still a bloody horrible way to go.
It reminds me of The Kursk, the Russian submarine on which 118 died.
Fancy going down to the depths of the ocean in a little tube, with very basic toilet facilities and just a curtain for privacy.
It reminds me of The Kursk, the Russian submarine on which 118 died.
Fancy going down to the depths of the ocean in a little tube, with very basic toilet facilities and just a curtain for privacy.
I imagine cancellations will be sky high across the sector as billionaires decide their Tuscan palazzos, private islands, and even just staying at home in Kensington Palace Gardens all sound more appealing after all.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
you might not know it until you were sealed in a tin can the size of a small car thousands of feet below the sea.
Apparently OceanGate announced at 12am today they had 24hrs oxygen left so 20hrs now. 12 noon tomorrow say 1pm to be on the safe side if they choke the OceanGate CEO for more air.
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