Titanic tourist sub missing

[Magnus McGinty]

The design specs of this vessel are hugely impressive? No ability to exit without external help. Deep sea capability rendering vessel almost impossible to reach to administer rescue. Co-ordinated rocking to release ballast. What fucking next? An incorporated log burning stove for use when temperature drops? Fuck me.

A lot of people didn’t think this through.

 

[hash tag]

Would a suicide pill in the event of such an emergency be an optional extra?

 

[Tanya1982]

I think, on balance, that I'd rather be turned into a pink paste in .25 of a second without warning than suffocate over 4 days in a pitch black, freezing steel tube with some strangers - while watching one my children die - with the contents of their voided bowels slopping about.

Call me a bluff old conservative on this issue if you will....

If floating near the surface, then there’s hope, and I’d probably rather be there right up until the oxygen was low. If at the bottom in the cold and dark waiting to suffocate, I’d definitely wish it had just imploded days ago.

The father is a real weak point. As a parent, the fear could lead to hysteria quite fast if you let it, and panic is contagious. If he’s got it under control, he might be a great strength - he has double anyone else’s reason to get out alive. The presence of a very experienced French naval diver must be some comfort. Strangle the CEO, be super-nice to the Frenchman, and take a few deep (but not too deep) breaths.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I think David Pogue (CBS man) discussed this at one point but couldn't find yesterday? It had several failsafes; a controllable ballast release, ballast that can be released by tilting, a mechanism that would erode over extended contact with sea water. I seem to recall there were 7. I have no idea whether these were different systems to release the same ballast, and can't quite get my head around whether that would work or not? I mean it would work, but I'd guess you want to be able to dump all the ballast if needed.

He was on bbc breakie this morning - even if every one passed out, the sub could surface. Quite incredible tech, & like you say lots of failsafes. Unlike this baked bean can.

 

[Cid]

The design specs of this vessel are hugely impressive? No ability to exit without external help. Deep sea capability rendering vessel almost impossible to reach to administer rescue. Co-ordinated rocking to release ballast. What fucking next? An incorporated log burning stove for use when temperature drops? Fuck me.

As I mentioned above I think the rocking is an option... i.e if everything fails, passengers can try shifting weight from one side to the other to get it to release. Then, if even that fails, it should technically release after a certain time period as attachments are eroded.

 

[Cid]

He was on bbc breakie this morning - even if every one passed out, the sub could surface. Quite incredible tech, & like you say lots of failsafes. Unlike this baked bean can.

It's this he went down in. So same tech! but I imagine it may have been more what they said it would do, and what happens on well designed subs, but here they tried to do the same with some half-arsed equivalents.

 

[Wilf]

Proper Urban this thread, we've had submarine porn, balancing wealth and ethnicity and a healthy dose of class war. What had been entirely unacceptable, in my opinion, has been the unwarranted intrusion by people who actually know what they are talking about. A sad day.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

It's this he went down in. So same tech! but I imagine it may have been more what they said it would do, and what happens on well designed subs, but here they tried to do the same with some half-arsed equivalents.

He came across as very confident in the failsafes! Wrongun I reckon.

 

[Elpenor]

Wonder if they at least spotted Rebekah Vardy’s agents phone before their sub stopped working

 

[Flavour]

I'd rather take my chances on the mountain.

One of the advantages of being too high up on a mountain, as opposed to being too deep underwater, is that descending into oxygen-rich air too quickly will not kill you or do you any harm at all, really, as far as I know. them bends though... no thanks

 

[Raheem]

Wonder if they at least spotted Rebekah Vardy’s agents phone before their sub stopped working

Also Robert Maxwell's skeleton.

 

[Cid]

Proper Urban this thread, we've had submarine porn, balancing wealth and ethnicity and a healthy dose of class war. What had been entirely unacceptable, in my opinion, has been the unwarranted intrusion by people who actually know what they are talking about. A sad day.

Yep, maybe a week ban for pseudonarcissus as a warning, unacceptable behaviour.

(thankyou for the very informative posts pseudonarcissus )

 

[WouldBe]

Or just turn off the carbon dioxide filter.

You'd notice and iirc start getting short of breath. With just nitrogen wou wouldn't notice.

 

[Raheem]

Also Robert Maxwell's skeleton.

(Although I think he was later found, in reality.)

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Paying an obscene amount of money to climb into a coffin to visit a submerged graveyard only to slowly join the graveyard with the man who built the coffin.
I can’t decide if it’s Stephen King or Chris Morris.

 

[Cid]

Paying an obscene amount of money to climb into a coffin to visit a submerged graveyard only to slowly join the graveyard with the man who built the coffin.
I can’t decide if it’s Stephen King or Chris Morris.

Surely that just makes it Charlie Brooker?

 

[Tanya1982]

I appreciate the thing cannot be opened from the inside that even if it did surface, they still have no way of letting air in.

I suppose they could ram the CEO’s head right through the fibre glass. He might as well be of some use to them.

 

[WouldBe]

A lot of people didn’t think this through.

You don't become a millionaire by wasting money.

 

[DotCommunist]

Paying an obscene amount of money to climb into a coffin to visit a submerged graveyard only to slowly join the graveyard with the man who built the coffin.
I can’t decide if it’s Stephen King or Chris Morris.

Edgar Allan Poe

 

[Orang Utan]

One of the advantages of being too high up on a mountain, as opposed to being too deep underwater, is that descending into oxygen-rich air too quickly will not kill you or do you any harm at all, really, as far as I know. them bends though... no thanks

Depends how quickly you mean. A vertical descent from high up is certain to kill you if you don’t have a parachute

 

[Raheem]

You don't become a millionaire by wasting money.

Unless it's not your money.

 

[Wilf]

Yep, maybe a week ban for pseudonarcissus as a warning, unacceptable behaviour.

(thankyou for the very informative posts pseudonarcissus )

Yes, definitely need a ban or two. With that we could put this thread on the honours board alongside Boathappy - Urban's top 2 seaside capers.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Surely that just makes it Charlie Brooker?

Good answer!

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Edgar Allan Poe

I must then read some of his stuff.

 

[DotCommunist]

I must then read some of his stuff.

Masque the Red Death- try this one

 

[Wilf]

Edgar Allan Poe

A Descent Into The Maelstrom by Edgar Allan Poe

The complete, unabridged text of A Descent Into The Maelstrom by Edgar Allan Poe, with vocabulary words and definitions.

poestories.com

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

One of the advantages of being too high up on a mountain, as opposed to being too deep underwater, is that descending into oxygen-rich air too quickly will not kill you or do you any harm at all, really, as far as I know. them bends though... no thanks

There are a number of problems with high altitudes. Altitude sickness can range from mild to severe. People can and do die from it. Its one of those things where you can be in real trouble before you recognize it and far from help when it happens:

Acute altitude illness comprises acute mountain sickness (AMS), high altitude cerebral edema (HACE), and high altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). Symptoms of AMS, the most common form of altitude illness, include headache, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, dizziness, and insomnia. If not appropriately treated, AMS can progress to life-threatening HACE or HAPE, which can present together or separately. Although HACE presents with similar symptoms as AMS, the cerebral edema can lead to ataxia, confusion, or altered mental status. HAPE is characterized by reduced exercise tolerance, exertional dyspnea, and cough, followed by dyspnea at rest, cyanosis, and productive cough with pink frothy sputum.

Unacclimatized people are at high risk of acute altitude illness when ascending above 8,200 ft (2,500 m), but AMS can occur as low as 6,500 ft (2,000 m). HACE is typically encountered at higher elevations unless presenting with HAPE. The Wilderness Medical Society does not use specific altitude thresholds for diagnosis.

Acute Altitude Illness: Updated Prevention and Treatment Guidelines from the Wilderness Medical Society

Acute altitude illness comprises acute mountain sickness, high altitude cerebral edema, and high altitude pulmonary edema. The Wilderness Medical Society has updated prevention and treatment guidelines on acute altitude illness.

www.aafp.org

I've had the mild version and it wasn't fun.

 

[DotCommunist]

A Descent Into The Maelstrom by Edgar Allan Poe

The complete, unabridged text of A Descent Into The Maelstrom by Edgar Allan Poe, with vocabulary words and definitions.

poestories.com

and also this one

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Masque the Red Death- try this one

Cheers! Will do.

 

[redcogs]

In 'Abyss' there were ET's knocking about at great depth to rescue people from disaster. So hope remains.