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MrSki said:
I have about seven of the books after giving away most of them whilst moving & picking up a few in charity shops since. I have not seen the TV bits but the books early on & at the end are really good. Well that is my opinion which might differ from others. :D
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Yeah my memory is they drag a bit in the middle, but if i can read all six of the thomas covenant books(only twitch if they are mentioned now) this will be a doddle plus no frustration at waiting for the next book to be published.
 
ginger_syn said:
Yeah my memory is they drag a bit in the middle, but if i can read all six of the thomas covenant books(only twitch if they are mentioned now) this will be a doddle plus no frustration at waiting for the next book to be published.
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There was more than six Thomas Covenant books. 10 or 11? Think I stopped at book 8. Great psychological fantasy, the narrative break of unbelief.

The Gap series was excellent too, visceral scifi horror. The Amnion were alien.
 
yield said:
There was more than six Thomas Covenant books. 10 or 11? Think I stopped at book 8. Great psychological fantasy, the narrative break of unbelief.

The Gap series was excellent too, visceral scifi horror. The Amnion were alien.
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10 , bloody hell. Happy to have stopped at six, excellently written books though. Just never want to read them ever again.
 
I'll watch them all now, there's been one or two scenes where I thought 'would probably bail here if I didn't like the story already' but overall its good fun, certainly more engaging than the Witcher.
The Logain episode is best so far with last night's in second for the white tower intriguing and Suin Sanche. Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any effort made to explain why Loial is there, the ogier relationship to the Ways. Season finale will be the dénouement of Eye of The World, hope they make all 20 books :cool:
 
My friend who hasn't read any fantasy but seen a few films etc said "it's bascially LOTR but with women, isn't it? The towers, the dark one, the eye, the quests blah blah"
 
platinumsage said:
My friend who hasn't read any fantasy but seen a few films etc said "it's bascially LOTR but with women, isn't it? The towers, the dark one, the eye, the quests blah blah"
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Its true in broad strokes but it doesn't say much given the modern genre started with Tolkien (arguably!). No tolkien, no D&D etc.
You'd be quicker listing modern fantasy that doesn't have similarities on a broad level to LOTR.
 
I'm persevering with season 2 of the TV show for some reason. I don't know if it's the acting or the writing but the characters are all as dull as ditch water. A big contrast to GoT where characters had different personalities and were actually interesting and entertaining.
 
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platinumsage said:
I'm persevering with season 2 of the TV show from some reason. I don't know if it's the acting or the writing but the characters are all as dull as ditch water. A big contrast to GoT where characters had different personalities and were actually interesting and entertaining.
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Don't think i'll bother with s2. I finished s1 but can't remember much about the story now or even any of the characters names. I do remember thinking the same as you about the characters though. You wouldn't care if any of them were killed off.
 
I loathe the books with every fibre of my being (and yes, foolishly I've read them ALL) but I sort of quite enjoyed season 1 of the show, it improved as it went on and I quite liked the various narrative changes that got all the fans upset.
 
platinumsage said:
I'm persevering with season 2 of the TV show for some reason. I don't know if it's the acting or the writing but the characters are all as dull as ditch water. A big contrast to GoT where characters had different personalities and were actually interesting and entertaining.
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Give GOT its due, but it had far longer to set out its stall. The pacing was much slower in the early seasons and had the space for character development. This show feels like an also ran because it is tbf but I'm watching it all.
 
DotCommunist said:
Give GOT its due, but it had far longer to set out its stall. The pacing was much slower in the early seasons and had the space for character development. This show feels like an also ran because it is tbf but I'm watching it all.
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Not sure about that, by the end of S1 GoT had Daenerys, Joffrey, Sansa, Jaime, Arya, Tyrion, Baelish, Varys, Bronn - all fully formed, interesting and distinctive characters, even though they were only at the start of their arcs.

On S2 of WoT and like moochedit I still don't know anyone's name. There's the red woman who seems angry, and there was crap comedian in S1 I think but I forgot who that was. They're all just bland.
 
The third episode of season two was actually quite interesting, or a least the main plot-line that it ended with was. I'm actually eagerly anticipating the next one now. :eek:
 
That was a decent watch, way better than the first season. I liked the costume design for the nasty foreigners. A shame some of the actors are a bit tepid (especially the bloke who plays the "dragon").
 
Nynaeve and Egwene have been particularly good this season. A solid finale. Oh and Lanfear.

platinumsage said:
I liked the costume design for the nasty foreigners.
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Seanchan. Its been a long time but I think he swordfights the seanchan baddie at falme in the book rather than pulling the indiana jones move.
 
They rock up at the end of like book 2 I think and then spend the rest of the series doing bondage things to magic girls
 
In a surprising turn of events season 2 has been a cut above season 1 so far. Season 1 had some terrible pacing and poor reveals. I was ready to abandon it if it didn't improve. The writing seems altogether better this season. And it has rapidly expanded the parts of the world we have seen or understood, and most of what we see is quite decent world-building. Also somewhat better character development this season, accepting the fact that complex character development is not ever going to be the series' strong point.
 
Brainaddict said:
In a surprising turn of events season 2 has been a cut above season 1 so far. Season 1 had some terrible pacing and poor reveals. I was ready to abandon it if it didn't improve. The writing seems altogether better this season. And it has rapidly expanded the parts of the world we have seen or understood, and most of what we see is quite decent world-building. Also somewhat better character development this season, accepting the fact that complex character development is not ever going to be the series' strong point.
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I thing they're doing a good job given the limitations of the source material - which is sheer brilliance with the world building and utterly dire with character development. The writing can never be as poor as Robert Jordan's.
 
Finally got the complete set of books including the prequel, feel an odd sense of achievement, and am going in for a complete re-read, see you on the other side.
 
ginger_syn said:
Finally got the complete set of books including the prequel, feel an odd sense of achievement, and am going in for a complete re-read, see you on the other side.
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I am currently doing a re-read (shame of it :oops: :cool:) and have made it through Autumn and am halfway through book 10 I am picking up on a bit more humour sprinkled in there amongst the spankings. Hope to finish by the end of the year.

Have overall enjoyed it and hope you do too.
 
You are both having a laugh with us, surely? I can't think of a bigger waste of life than rereading WoT. It will take like six months. Six months in which you could read so many good books. It's bad enough the first time around but to know in advance what you're getting into - I'd have a breakdown, I think. I'd fear for some kind of permanent damage to my already poor executive function. Early onset dementia maybe.
 
lazythursday said:
You are both having a laugh with us, surely? I can't think of a bigger waste of life than rereading WoT. It will take like six months. Six months in which you could read so many good books. It's bad enough the first time around but to know in advance what you're getting into - I'd have a breakdown, I think. I'd fear for some kind of permanent damage to my already poor executive function. Early onset dementia maybe.
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Six months, six weeks more like. And to me not a waste of time as I'm enjoying it, (inspite of the slog to come )im just coming to the end of book three.
Its my third reread but the first where i own the complete set.
 
ginger_syn said:
Six months, six weeks more like. And to me not a waste of time as I'm enjoying it, (inspite of the slog to come )im just coming to the end of book three.
Its my third reread but the first where i own the complete set.
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Third reread!

tugs imaginary braid in utter despair
 
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