The Truth About Chlorinated Chicken review – Channel 4 doc

[cupid_stunt]

Sure, but sea or air freight either way seems a waste of resources to my way of thinking.

Of course it is! I was only responding to your comment 'how is it that slaughtered chicken survives such a journey' - if frozen, clearly they can.

Personally I doubt that when, or if, a free trade deal is done with the US, we will see loads of chicken arriving from across the pond, in view of transport costs, when we produce it so cheaply here anyway, and meet our own needs.

But, the idea that it'll happen produces stories in the media, and outrage on the internet.

 

[weltweit]

..
But, the idea that it'll happen produces stories in the media, and outrage on the internet.

Indeed.

 

[Dogsauce]

Sure, but sea or air freight either way seems a waste of resources to my way of thinking.

The low carbon solution - Freeze them together in one big block like a giant iceberg, then attach a sail and take advantage of the prevailing westerly. An extra advantage is that Merkel’s EU-boats will have difficulty sinking such a vessel as it runs the post-Brexit naval blockade.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The low carbon solution - Freeze them together in one big block like a giant iceberg, then attach a sail and take advantage of the prevailing westerly. An extra advantage is that Merkel’s EU-boats will have difficulty sinking such a vessel as it runs the post-Brexit naval blockade.

Project Habbacluck.

 

[joustmaster]

How can people eat animals treated like this FFS

It's just a chicken

 

[editor]

Chlorinated incoming apparently!

US insists chlorinated chicken must be on menu in any post-Brexit UK trade agreement

Mike Pompeo warns US farmers will demand inclusion of controversial agricultural products – but insists that will make it a ‘really good deal’ for British shoppers

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Marty1]

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‘Cluck off’

 

[editor]

You lucky chicken eaters

Britain is prepared to permit imports of chlorinated chicken from the US but will slap high tariffs on cheaply-produced food in order to minimise the impact on British farmers.

The latest Government proposal for a trade deal with the US is for a "dual tariff" regime that imposes different levels of duty on imported foods, depending on whether they comply with UK animal welfare standards.

Hormone-fed beef, chlorinated chicken and other foods that use techniques banned in Britain will be allowed across the Atlantic, but ministers want to use tariffs to make it uneconomical for US producers to export them to the UK.

High-quality foods, such as organically-reared free range meat, would be subject to lower tariffs in order to encourage foreign producers to lift their animal welfare to British levels.

The National Farmers' Union described the scheme as "a significant step forwards" because it would prevent the US from flooding the UK market with cheap food produced using techniques banned in Britain.

But Brexiteers will be concerned that British consumers will not see the benefits of Brexit in the form of cheaper food on supermarket shelves.

Britain ready to allow import of chlorinated chicken from US

'Dual tariff' regime would see different levels of duty on imported foods, depending on whether they comply with UK welfare standards

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Saul Goodman]

Chlorine evaporates when it's heated. I'd have no problem eating chlorinated chicken.

 

[andysays]

You lucky chicken eaters

From that article

Hormone-fed beef, chlorinated chicken and other foods that use techniques banned in Britain will be allowed across the Atlantic, but ministers want to use tariffs to make it uneconomical for US producers to export them to the UK.

High-quality foods, such as organically-reared free range meat, would be subject to lower tariffs in order to encourage foreign producers to lift their animal welfare to British levels.

The devil is in the detail and I'm sure there's a certain amount of government spin going on here, but on the face of it encouraging healthier and more humane food production by differential tariffs sounds like a good thing.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Chlorine evaporates when it's heated. I'd have no problem eating chlorinated chicken.

From earlier. . .
It's not consuming chlorine itself that the EU is worried about - in fact in 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern". Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU.

But the EU believes that relying on a chlorine rinse at the end of the meat production process could be a way of compensating for poor hygiene standards - such as dirty or crowded abattoirs.
How safe is chlorine-washed chicken?

 

[Roadkill]

From earlier. . .
It's not consuming chlorine itself that the EU is worried about - in fact in 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern". Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU.

But the EU believes that relying on a chlorine rinse at the end of the meat production process could be a way of compensating for poor hygiene standards - such as dirty or crowded abattoirs.
How safe is chlorine-washed chicken?

Exactly. The chlorine itself isn't the issue; it's the poor hygeine standards for which it's supposed to compensate. It doesn't. The US has far higher rates of food poisoning than the UK - about ten times as high, in the case of campylobacter - and its low-quality, low-cost meat industry is one of the main reasons for that. There's no way British producers will be able to compete in their current form, so the likelihood is that many will go out of business and those that survive will do so by dropping standards to US levels. If there is a tariff - and anyone who takes the Tories at face value about that is just plain naive - even if it is imposed at the start it'll be tapered off over time, so at best it will delay the inevitable.

Chicken is only one part of a bigger problem, though. The next battles will be over hormone-treated beef, GM grains, fruit and vegetables, and so on.

 

[8ball]

Chlorine evaporates when it's heated. I'd have no problem eating chlorinated chicken.

 

[Big Bertha]

It’ll end up in low end fried chicken shops which I don’t frequent.

 

[8ball]

It’ll end up in low end fried chicken shops which I don’t frequent.

And assorted restaurants I expect, with the posher ones emphatically stating they do not use it.

 

[editor]

From that article

Hormone-fed beef, chlorinated chicken and other foods that use techniques banned in Britain will be allowed across the Atlantic, but ministers want to use tariffs to make it uneconomical for US producers to export them to the UK.

Want ministers 'want' and what they get are often very different things. It's hardly like the UK is now in some mighty position of strength in negotiations.

 

[editor]

Chlorine evaporates when it's heated. I'd have no problem eating chlorinated chicken.

How about the associated lower levels of hygiene and animal welfare? Are you just dandy with that too?

 

[Saul Goodman]

How about the associated lower levels of hygiene and animal welfare? Are you just dandy with that too?

No

 

[editor]

No

But you'd still have "no problem" supporting the industry by eating their produce, right?

 

[Saul Goodman]

But you'd still have "no problem" supporting the industry by eating their produce, right?

I said I'd have no problem eating chlorinated chicken. I said nothing about supporting poor hygiene.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

It’ll end up in low end fried chicken shops which I don’t frequent.

So long as it doesn't affect you personally, you're not bothered.

 

[Roadkill]

Want ministers 'want' and what they get are often very different things. It's hardly like the UK is now in some mighty position of strength in negotiations.

Even if it was this shower of Tory shit wouldn't exploit it. They'll give the Trump administration everything it asks for, and damn the consequences for the rest of us.

 

[Big Bertha]

So long as it doesn't affect you personally, you're not bothered.

Cheap chicken is bad news if it’s chlorinated or not.

 

[Roadkill]

Cheap chicken is bad news if it’s chlorinated or not.

'Chlorinated chicken' is worse news, though, simply because the chlorine is used to compensate for far worse standards of hygiene and animal welfare.

 

[hash tag]

Its not just chicken we should worry about. Its more than just meat, its yer fruit n veg as well oh and by the way, its shit.

Dirty Secrets of American Food

The trade deal that could lower UK food standards and decimate British farming

www.channel4.com

 

[hash tag]

Dp

 

[Jeff Robinson]

'Chlorinated chicken' is worse news, though, simply because the chlorine is used to compensate for far worse standards of hygiene and animal welfare.

Don't know how much better the UK is in terms of welfare.

“These figures shine a light on the very poor conditions that are the norm in Britain’s poultry sector. Most broilers, turkeys and ducks are farmed in crowded, stressful conditions that make them vulnerable to disease,”

Over 60 million chickens in England and Wales rejected over disease and defects

Slaughterhouse figures from a three-year period highlight poor conditions in Britain’s poultry sector, say campaigners

www.theguardian.com

Reports by vets and hygiene inspectors detail more than 4,000 severe breaches of animal welfare regulations over the past two years, including instances of chickens being boiled alive and trucks of animals suffocating or freezing to death.

Severe welfare breaches recorded six times a day in British…

Data obtained by the Bureau reveals six severe welfare breaches that subject animals to needless pain and suffering are recorded per day on average at…

www.thebureauinvestigates.com

 

[platinumsage]

I can't really see Tesco's shelves being packed full of fresh chickens air-freighted in from Iowa. Where's this chlorinated chicken going to end up? In kebabs?

 

[Sprocket.]

Slightly off topic but sickening.
In the British egg industry it is estimated over 30 million day old male chicks are killed every year. The RSPCA say most are gassed.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I can't really see Tesco's shelves being packed full of fresh chickens air-freighted in from Iowa. Where's this chlorinated chicken going to end up? In kebabs?

Meal Deals, ready meals, tinned crap.