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On Pew Religion and Education Around the World
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4% of US Hindus lack a college degree. My Hindu friends back in CA would be shocked that it's that high.
 
On Newsweek OBAMACARE IS ONLY GETTING MORE POPULAR UNDER DONALD TRUMP
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Overall, the Trump administration has been a boon to Obamacare's popularity. As President Barack Obama was preparing to leave office in early January, approval of the ACA stood at just 41 percent of voters, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll. That number jumped to 47 percent nearly the second Donald Trump took office January 20.
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Also 79% said they wanted Trump to make the ACA work as well as possible rather than let it self destruct as he keeps on saying is the politically smart thing to do. Let's call it the Trump Effect.
 
Buy Canadian has been a constant theme while advertising products here. One of the fast food chains are bragging that they only use Canadian eggs, another claims Canadian beef, and my personal favourite, the battle of the ketchup. Starting coming to a head when a supermarket chain tried pulling French's ketchup because it was outselling the company's product. French's claimed that they only use Canadian tomatoes. Patriotic comsumers start switching to French's. Now, French's announced they will be making the Ketchup in Canada - BONUS!!!

French's ketchup plans to move production to Ontario | Toronto Star
 
How did clinton pay for his 325 mile wall with mexico. Did he bravely demand state funding?
Well it was a patchy fence and easy to climb over (it had hand holds) that only really stopped vehicles. Not a great big beautiful wall costing $25+ billion. It had bipartisan support and Congress allocated funds. George Bush had another go at it like Bill Clinton along with immigration reform. Estimated cost about $2.5 billion 2007-2015. I don't recall either of them being unsure of there being such a thing as a good Mexican.

American politicians have been banging on about sealing the Mexican border for about a century. The usual result has been to inflate the size of the US government and spread a good deal of Federal pork around. US liberals might therefore consider all the bullshitting that's gone on about keeping the scary Mexicans out not entirely a bad thing for the statist agenda.
 
On Politico White House readies order on withdrawing from NAFTA
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The approach appears designed to extract better terms with Canada and Mexico. President Donald Trump pledged on the campaign trail to renegotiate NAFTA, a trade deal signed in 1994 by former President Bill Clinton that removes tariffs and allows for the free flow of goods and supplies between the three countries in North America. Trump in recent weeks has stepped up his rhetoric vowing to terminate the agreement all together.

“NAFTA’s been very, very bad for our country,” he said in a speech last week in Kenosha, Wis. “It’s been very, very bad for our companies and for our workers, and we’re going to make some very big changes or we are going to get rid of NAFTA once and for all.”
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It's probably a bluff but US farmers who have done rather well out of NAFTA will be shitting themselves.
 
That's true. Well, and look at retail, cleaning, food service and care work. Mostly minimum wage, poor conditions, little job security, rarely unionised, but I didn't hear people in these jobs name checked when politicians talk about reaching out to working class people. These fields employ a higher proportion of women, and men and women of colour though, so . . .

I mentioned the other manual jobs in agriculture, manufacturing, shipping, transport, etc. both because they employ hell of a lot more people than the coal industry ever did and they're traditionally viewed as requiring physical strength and being dangerous. To be fair, equipment and safer practice have removed much of the risk from most manual industries. And, there are plenty of risks to health and personal safety in things like cleaning and care work, but hey . . . let's hear it for the coal miners! :rolleyes:

They aren't 'coal miners' the people who produce coal these days are 'plant operators'
The traditional underground coal miner is extinct in most westernised Countries, or at least retired:D:thumbs:
 
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Yep, we're still fighting the Civil War:

New Orleans on Monday began removing four monuments dedicated to the era of the Confederacy and its aftermath, capping a prolonged battle about the future of the memorials, which critics deemed symbols of racism and intolerance and which supporters viewed as historically important.

Workers dismantled an obelisk, which was erected in 1891 to honor members of the Crescent City White League who in 1874 fought in the Reconstruction-era Battle of Liberty Place against the racially integrated New Orleans police and state militia, Mayor Mitch Landrieu said in a statement. ....

The workers were dressed in flak jackets, helmets and scarves to conceal their identities because of concerns about their safety. Police officers watched from a nearby hotel.

New Orleans Begins Removing Confederate Monuments, Under Police Guard
 
On Bloomberg Trump’s ‘Massive’ Tax Plan: One Page, Many Unanswered Questions
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The points that the tax outline did include -- calls for slashing business taxes, eliminating the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax, cutting individual income-tax rates and repealing an investment-income tax for high earners -- amount to a conservative wish-list from the past several years. Separately, any one of them could provoke a titanic fight.

But the most immediate controversy is likely to focus on cost. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget released a rough analysis saying the plan could cost $3 trillion to $7 trillion over the next decade -- potentially “harming economic growth instead of boosting it.”

The non-partisan research group determined that Trump’s corporate tax cut would cost $2.2 trillion, while his other cuts for other businesses would amount to $1.5 trillion. Doubling the standard deduction, which would help lower- and middle-class taxpayers, would cost roughly $1.5 trillion, the CRFB said, while repealing the estate tax, which would benefit wealthy families, would cost $200 billion.
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Estate tax only applies on estates valued at >$5.5 million. Not exactly a package aimed at benefitting the typical Oxy addict in the Rust Belt other than by the magic of Trickle Down economics.

Both vague and swampy.
 
That's his one redeeming feature I thought.
Yeh, it's good that he backs down but the speed with which he does it demonstrates the paucity of his original understanding. It's the “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy” factor that's so depressing.
 
He's just got tumbleweed where his ideas should be and repeats whatever he just saw on TV or got told over steak dinner, but that's preferable to him stubbornly sticking to whatever nonsense he came out with the day before I reckon.
 
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It is truly appalling how quickly he backs down when he has to meet people who actually know about stuff and have an argument to offer
Some of that may be incompetence or it could be deliberate strategy to keep people permanently confused and compliant. It's convenient that either way, the relentless speed and number of drastic new policies, bombastic statements, build ups to announcements that are nothingburgers, military actions, climbdowns, gaffes, insults to allies etc. Still have the effect of making people perpetually anxious, exasperated and exhausted.
 
And given the sort of "man" he is, it must infuriate and humiliate him to have to row back on whatever bullshit he promised just because he was corrected by someone who knows what he or she was talking about. So, one day. . .
 
Some of that may be incompetence or it could be deliberate strategy to keep people permanently confused and compliant. It's convenient that either way, the relentless speed and number of drastic new policies, bombastic statements, build ups to announcements that are nothingburgers, military actions, climbdowns, gaffes, insults to allies etc. Still have the effect of making people perpetually anxious, exasperated and exhausted.

That did seem to be part of his tactic in the election. I doubt if he'll change now, even if it is a liability to give false signals to foreign powers.
 
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On War On The Rocks AMERICA FIRST? NOT SO FAST! WHAT WE’VE LEARNED FROM 100 DAYS OF TRUMP FOREIGN POLICY
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Process Trumps Doctrine

But perhaps most detrimental to Trump’s “America First” vision is the fact that the Trump doctrine has taken a backseat to the Trump process.

For starters, Trump does not seem entirely wedded to his own “America First” doctrine. Despite the manifestly ideological nature of the Trump campaign, to most observers it looks like Trump — for good or ill — simply does not yet have well-formed opinions about how to confront the many foreign policy challenges the United States faces. As president, Trump thus appears to be ideologically unmoored, priding himself on “flexibility,” and eager to abandon ideas that helped get him elected if they seem to hamper effective governance. The result has been a series of flip-flops on matters of policy without a hint of hesitation or shame.

The lack of ideological principle translates to a lack of strategic deliberation. Trump’s missile strikes on Syria and his saber rattling on North Korea both smack of a desire to look tough, but neither are part of a serious broader strategy. The Syria strikes will not mitigate the humanitarian suffering there and were not even intended to affect the balance of power in the civil war. And the threats of preventive war on North Korea won’t compel Pyongyang to denuclearize. In the absence of an overarching ideological or strategic approach, short-term tactical considerations tailored to achieve quick but small wins rule the day.

The “America First” program remains at the mercy of Trump’s personality and governing style. On this score, a review of his first 100 days in office makes clear that Trump injects an element of unpredictability to the entire foreign policy enterprise. Trump’s tendency to comment on breaking news and to create foreign policy on the fly via Twitter, often without warning his senior advisors first, not only worries old foreign policy hands but raises the chances that Trump will call an audible rather than stick to the “America First” playbook. Perhaps the only consistent theme in Trump’s approach is the desire to bolster his domestic legitimacy and shore up American prestige abroad. Those motivations, we note, have so far pushed Trump toward greater foreign policy activism, not “America First” isolationism.
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Trump is simply an unprincipled opportunist. Not a bad thing in a businessman. Trickier for a tyro politician. Piece predicts Trump will run into trouble with his supporters if he turns out to be a bellicose, interventionist who gets little done domestically as seems likely.

I'd not be so sure. They've bought the Trump brand and that's a great triumph of a paranoid style over pretty daft content. He's already been a turny twisty thing but 96% of his voters would vote Trump again. At that rate he'd still beat Clinton and like as not smear any other opponent into being perceived as Hell's spawn by GOP voters. Perception is more important than reality and that will be shaped by Trump's able bullshitting and the likes of Fox News.
 
... Piece predicts Trump will run into trouble with his supporters if he turns out to be a bellicose, interventionist who gets little done domestically as seems likely.

I'd not be so sure. They've bought the Trump brand and that's a great triumph of a paranoid style over pretty daft content. He's already been a turny twisty thing but 96% of his voters would vote Trump again. At that rate he'd still beat Clinton and like as not smear any other opponent into being perceived as Hell's spawn by GOP voters. Perception is more important than reality and that will be shaped by Trump's able bullshitting and the likes of Fox News.
I agree with you over Pierce, CrabbedOne: Trump supporters don't care if about US foreign policy in any meaningful detail. They're not going to stop voting Trump just vecause a few hundred thousand Arab children die in some weaponised wang-waving. Hell, few of them would get to read about it, and those that would, will probably get a kick out of it. Even a few hundred dead US soldiers in a conflict overseas would just bolster domestic patriotic pride, more militaristic discourse and thus less critical reflection on Trump's administration and US policy as a whole - (and provide a retail opportunity for Trump-Brand coffins and funerals). Remember George Dubya Bush was elected on a rejection of Clintonite intervention - but he gained electorally from Imperial warfare. No reason to suppose Trump wouldn't either. Trump's support is all about immediate self-interest - and that is a self based on the nationalistic-consumer. It is a very stable, albeit conservative and socially damaging, identity.

It wont be turncoat Trump supporters who'll do for him (though there will be some erosion no doubt, probably for a reason so petty that most commentators outside his circle of support won't spot it immediately) - but whether the existing overwhelming majority who oppose him can act in a mutually supportive manner to frustrate and humiliate him.
 
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