Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
And the Batshit Butchers are in Vaughan, Ontario - if I'd had to guess, I'd have thought both places were in Florida.
The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases
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And the Batshit Butchers are in Vaughan, Ontario - if I'd had to guess, I'd have thought both places were in Florida.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Its just so ducking fumb.
Absolutely love it, its my favorite, when these folk use intellectual giants like twain and Einstein and camus in their meme warfare, whilst not seeing what people like that stood for. It really makes me feel that all their genius and intellectual blood sweat and tears was worth it in the end. Rolling in their graves.Another fahkin hippie idiot (organic shop owner)
Penarth near Cardiff
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Organic shop refuses to enforce social distancing rules
The well-known Glebe Street shop Jo's Organics has taken an anti-lockdown stance and refuses to adhere to or enforce social distancing rules.penarth.nub.news
Bit of "banking system" in there and this shit
"It’s been so fantastic to see our customers again because they are free-thinking individuals questioning what we’re being told. Yes, there is a virus out there. But society has lived with flus and viruses forever. This is about fear."
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Have they used that fake Voltaire ‘to know who rules over you’ meme yet?
spring-peeper
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I actually turned it off. Can't do it.
Sounds like a good act of self care.
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
Taking a cheese grater to your own scrotum/pudenda is just as painful but much cheaper. I can't say I'd really advise either though.
Past a certain point, there's precious little to be gained by understanding the point of view of what I might refer to as extremists. Leave it for the historians who will have their own buckets.
bimble
floofy
This whole thing has wreaked so much damage in my relationships, not just with my mum (who is good friends with anti vax loon) but quite a few others too.
Wrote back to an old ex-boyfriend the other day, saying i have no tolerance for the sort of bullshit he'd just come out with - about how he wasn't coming back to the uk cos its a prison island where everyone is getting injected with genetic modified blah) - and now i dont know whether I'll hear from him ever again or indeed whether i want to.
Wrote back to an old ex-boyfriend the other day, saying i have no tolerance for the sort of bullshit he'd just come out with - about how he wasn't coming back to the uk cos its a prison island where everyone is getting injected with genetic modified blah) - and now i dont know whether I'll hear from him ever again or indeed whether i want to.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
I had a look at the website - lots of woo as you'd imagine.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
You’re a braver man than me. I couldn’t expose my brain to that gibberish for fear of losing all control and hurling the toaster out the window
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
I work with a fella who over the last 15 months has shown occasional flirtations with the Loon Tendency. Very early on I was having a conversation about the earliest stages of the disease, but due to a combination of a stutter and my usual way of phrasing things, I paused just long enough for him to say "...control the population." Now nobody took him on, though I marked his card from that point. He denies being much of a YouTube addict (he lives alone) but he refers to enough YT channels for this to be notable too. The office had a conversation about seeing Chinese students walking around wearing masks years before all this, and instead of the general conclusion of "they're quite sensible thinking about it!" he chipped in with "they knew what was coming."
I'm more understanding of the woman I sometimes work with from another department who's an unabashed anti-everything. Anti-EU because of the "single European army" she's heard about (and, er, has been rumoured for decades and has yet to happen but you know.) Whenever you even hint at Covid, or it's on the office radio, she'll mention how "China planned all this" and it's all to do with "ruining our economy for the Chinese, and they've succeeded."
It's so exhausting. So tiring.
I'm more understanding of the woman I sometimes work with from another department who's an unabashed anti-everything. Anti-EU because of the "single European army" she's heard about (and, er, has been rumoured for decades and has yet to happen but you know.) Whenever you even hint at Covid, or it's on the office radio, she'll mention how "China planned all this" and it's all to do with "ruining our economy for the Chinese, and they've succeeded."
It's so exhausting. So tiring.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Needless to say David fucking Icke is pushing the vaccine shedding bollocks, I had to debunk that elsewhere, the other day.
Needless to say the linked Pfizer document doesn't back-up his claim, yet idiots are sharing Icke's bollocks anyway.
Needless to say the linked Pfizer document doesn't back-up his claim, yet idiots are sharing Icke's bollocks anyway.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
It’s hard to keep up with the constantly-mutating loon ‘theories’, one minute they’re claiming the vaccine will alter our DNA, next they say it can shed... or more vaguely that no-one knows the long term effects (hard to argue against but applies also to any new medication). Then there’s your other more vintage loons, talking about microchips in the vaccine... it’s like whack-a-mole, as soon as one mad claim is debunked, another one pops up. Like a malodorous, poisonous mushroom. Plus the lack of a single leader or figurehead. At lest with other cults, an L Ron Hubbard or Sun Myung Moon figure can be targeted for debunking and ridiculeNeedless to say David fucking Icke is pushing the vaccine shedding bollocks, I had to debunk that elsewhere, the other day.
Needless to say the linked Pfizer document doesn't back-up his claim, yet idiots are sharing Icke's bollocks anyway.
you haven't seen Brian with his nunchucks?
It doesn’t come from nowhere, though. Maybe if history want littered with things like The Cutter Incident and The Tuskegee Study there wouldn’t be such a folk representation of suspicious mass injections.
"littered" ?
You want a timeline? There have been more than enough problematic issues and attempts to play them down for it to have implanted a modern-day lack of trust. The point is that people don’t just spring fully-formed as conspiracists out of a society that is built around placing their well-being front and centre. They are paranoid because they really are commodified and their well-being really is financially assessed against the alternatives. In that context, locating the blame within the individual who is responding to their environment not only misses the point, it does nothing towards achieving resolution.
A lot of people i thought were critical thinkers have been completely taken in (or seized on the opportunity to show their true colours as grifters) have revealed themselves during this. It's exhausting and depressing - and yet I can't stay off Twitter!
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I'm intrigued by how triggering I find these folks now. I think we all carry around, to a greater or lesser extent, covid trauma and these guys are like sticking a needle in it. I couldn't see my kids for three months, feared losing my job for about 4 months, didn't socialise for 4 months, and then these folk roll up and say all that suffering is because we are sheep. It's a massive pint of Go Fuck Yourself.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'd wager that most loons couldn't even name those events. I've certainly never heard any of them mention any of these. It's all Bill Gates genetic engineering China wowoowoowoowoowoo
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
It's an incredible podcast, and because it focuses on the states i can kinda distance myself. When I heard they were going to thay march tho
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
I think these incidents should be placed in the context of how many lives have been saved by mass vaccination programmes. Similarly with deaths and illness resulting from blood clots as a reaction to the AZ vaccine. I don’t doubt these have happened, but given that many millions of people have had the AZ vaccine, the proportion is very low.
When I first started reading about this a couple of years ago, I was - perhaps naively - surprised to find the highest rates of ‘vaccine hesitancy’ aren’t in countries suspicious of ‘Western medicine’ but are in the affluent, developed world where mass vaccination has been so successful that many once-common diseases have been eliminated.
We don’t see the benefits, only the potential hazards. If a member of your extended family has polio, a neighbour’s child died of tetanus etc the dangers become very real. To us it’s arguably quite abstract because of the successes of vaccination.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
TBF, I'd be willing to bet that very few of those harbouring - or promulgating - these views will have ever heard of either of those events.
And it's fairly typical of the conspiraloon movement, in any case, to cherrypick the slightest potential or imagined data that supports their view, and conflate it into a great big conspiracy. Arguably, the very fact we even know about the incidents you cite is something of an argument against them being what the loonies might potentially claim them to be.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
I flipped out after seeing how many people showed up at the recent London ‘March for Freedom’ and especially seeing the low-life wearing ’no Covid’ yellow stars. It was the realisation that I could very well have been in the West End that day and what would have happened if confronted by these types calling for people to take their masks off. I’m fairly sure I would’ve lost it and could easily imagine punching a yellow star wearer in the face. Very unlike me as I’m nearly always non-confrontational and avoid conflict. I agree that the build-up of anxiety and isolation has taken its toll, cos I don’t normally react like this; was talking and thinking about it obsessively for a few days!
It's not about whether specific individuals know about specific events. It's about the fact that people have the subjective experience in modern society of feeling that they are objectivised commodities that have to look out for themselves. The idea of welfare taking care of you has been replaced by the idea of mindset and taking care of yourself. Collectivism has been replaced by individualism. People are bombarded with examples of how they can't trust authority, but have to assume it's corrupt and has ulterior motives. It's taken for granted that choice is king and freedom is the ultimate aspiration, so these need exercising at all times.
Not all these things are bad and I'm not setting out a manifesto here. But you can't subjectify people into feeling that they have to make personal choices about how to look after themselves at every stage of their lives and then be surprised when they make personal choices about how to look after themselves that are derived from the paranoid mindset that is fostered from having to make personal choices all the time.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Plenty of people make choices as individuals without succumbing to pathological paranoia. In fact most of them do.
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