The pope in hospital

[Dogsauce]

What would you call a special Pope ambulance?

Papamedics?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

He has a lung infection and only has one lung.
Contrary to what some think he was and is a bit of a revolutionary within the church...he is hated within the hierarchy of the church especially the vatican, for not being conservative enough for them. Many conservative priests dislike him...and some absolutely hate him because he has listened to people.. allows communion for divorcees and has openly stated he does not and will not judge gays.

The war against Pope Francis

The long read: His modesty and humility have made him a popular figure around the world. But inside the church, his reforms have infuriated conservatives and sparked a revolt

www.google.com

Worth a read. If anyone actually wants to know who the man is.

These things are all relative, I suppose. He still has unanswered questions dating back to Argentina's Dirty War, during which he was head of the Jesuits in Argentina. At best, and this is being charitable, he refused to give the Junta his official blessing - not giving the generals communion, etc - while also choosing silence and inaction over their murders and terror. At best, he helped some priests but did not put himself out for the general population. And that's the most charitable reading of what happened. More likely, at first at least, he saw the montoneros as the greater evil (read: greater threat to the church's authority) and implicitly backed the generals, again at least at first.

So he may not be conservative compared to other priests, but he looks pretty damn conservative to me.

 

[not-bono-ever]

He’s no Torres but compared to the previous shitbags, well yeh

Do we get a day off if he goes up to join Jesus in the sky ?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

They really do need to diversify and hire someone younger, get a woman this time too, not had one since Joan.

yes, i mean, they let a man be the queen this time round...

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I had a friend once, now dead, who wrote a song entitled "Fuck the Pope". I think I just might have it still somewhere on an old tape. I'll try and dig it out. But in the meantime, fuck the pope.

 

[Raheem]

I had a friend once, now dead, who wrote a song entitled "Fuck the Pope".

Cause and effect.

 

[pbsmooth]

Fuck the Catholic church.

That's what got them in this mess

 

[DotCommunist]

Do we get a day off if he goes up to join Jesus in the sky ?

Sadly not, the monarch is the head of the CofE so the pope counts for nothing in terms of days off. Used to be feast days off, saints days off, celebrate St. Monday then start work late tuesday afternoon. Halcyon days.

 

[moochedit]

Do we get a day off if he goes up to join Jesus in the sky ?

Not in the UK we won't. I guess they might do in some catholic countries?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Might be a bit tricky that one

Well going by what happened with formosus ut might not be that much of a stretch.

 

[Aladdin]

Interesting take on the Argentinian dirty war and that period in his life here..

Pope Francis: questions remain over his role during Argentina's dictatorship

Jorge Bergoglio was head of the Jesuit order in the 1970s when the church backed military government and called for patriotism

www.google.com

And also it seems he was receiving psychotherapy sessions during that time..

Pope's psychoanalyst visits show his struggle in Argentina's 'dirty war'

Francis, then Fr Bergoglio, was caught in middle between military junta and the left, harming relationships with fellow Jesuits

www.theguardian.com

"He
acknowledged that he made "hundreds of errors" when he directed Argentina's Jesuit Order in the mid-1970s, in the lead up to the country's Dirty War.

Author Paul Vallely says Pope Francis argues that he made mistakes during that turbulent period because he'd been "put into the job too early."

"He said he was too young, too inexperienced, too authoritarian, people said he was an ultra-conservative because of the way he behaved," says Vallely, author of Pope Francis: The Struggle for the Soul of Catholicism. "He regretted that."

Was Pope Francis silent during Argentina's Dirty War? - The World from PRX

Pope Francis "locked horns" with two of his Jesuit mentors during Argentina's Dirty War.

theworld.org

Ultimately I think he knew he would be assassinated if he was seen to support the Junta. He says he tried to help others (the 2 jesuits) discreetly. One of them agreed with this version. He obviously needed psychotherapy during that time.
He may have acted differently if he had not been so conservative / dogmatic / authoritarian/ out of his depth at that time.

He has become less conservative/ dogmatic/ authoritarian as pope which has angered numbers of conservative people in the machine that is the Church hierarchy and the Curia.

 

[Humberto]

If only there was some kind of god to take care of him.

This wise crack literally makes no sense

 

[SpookyFrank]

This wise crack literally makes no sense

Having an opinion on what might happen when everything has been decided in advance by some beardy cunt sat on a cloud is the thing that makes no sense.

 

[tim]

A Muslim pope would be a nice gesture.

Proclaimed with puffs of woke smoke.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Thoughts and prayers? Or is that a bit coals to newcastle

 

[ElizabethofYork]

 

[Santino]

Having an opinion on what might happen when everything has been decided in advance by some beardy cunt sat on a cloud is the thing that makes no sense.

I don't think Catholics believe in predestination, that's more a Protestant thing.

 

[friedaweed]

I'm going to wear my Baby Jebus Butt plug today in the hope that his holiness gets well soon.

 

[andysays]

I don't think Catholics believe in predestination, that's more a Protestant thing.

But since when has Frank let actually knowing what he's talking about get in the way of his shit flinging?

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't think Catholics believe in predestination, that's more a Protestant thing.

it's always good to see you pronounce on matters theological CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Predestination

 

[LeytonCatLady]

Pope in a puffer, while we keep vigil?

Hope it helps him in his East 17 audition.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pope in a puffer, while we keep vigil?

the actual saying is 'pope in a puffer, things will get rougher'

 

[Pickman's model]

That is a fucking sic puffer tho.

it's the sort of thing someone armed with the wrath of god might wear

 

[nogojones]

Ain't real tho

You'd think with all the money the Vatican had they wouldn't be buying knock off puffers from the market

 

[surreybrowncap]

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think Catholics believe in predestination, that's more a Protestant thing.

Catholic belief in predestination seems to be a very complicated subject that many learned scholars total losers have spent a great deal of time wasted their lives contemplating.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I don't think Catholics believe in predestination, that's more a Protestant thing.

I always thought it worked like this. Protestants read the Bible, the infallible word of Almighty God, and then make their own minds up about such eternal truths. Catholics, on the other hand, ask their nearest priest, who then responds in mediaeval Latin, which they then have to interpret. As a consequence nobody on either side of the divide agrees with anyone else.

 

[krtek a houby]

Waiting for the inevitable popular Irish priest on a rocky island related comment

 

[moochedit]

Waiting for the inevitable popular Irish priest on a rocky island related comment

That would be an ecumenical matter

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Interesting take on the Argentinian dirty war and that period in his life here..

Pope Francis: questions remain over his role during Argentina's dictatorship

Jorge Bergoglio was head of the Jesuit order in the 1970s when the church backed military government and called for patriotism

www.google.com

And also it seems he was receiving psychotherapy sessions during that time..

Pope's psychoanalyst visits show his struggle in Argentina's 'dirty war'

Francis, then Fr Bergoglio, was caught in middle between military junta and the left, harming relationships with fellow Jesuits

www.theguardian.com

"He
acknowledged that he made "hundreds of errors" when he directed Argentina's Jesuit Order in the mid-1970s, in the lead up to the country's Dirty War.

Author Paul Vallely says Pope Francis argues that he made mistakes during that turbulent period because he'd been "put into the job too early."

"He said he was too young, too inexperienced, too authoritarian, people said he was an ultra-conservative because of the way he behaved," says Vallely, author of Pope Francis: The Struggle for the Soul of Catholicism. "He regretted that."

Was Pope Francis silent during Argentina's Dirty War? - The World from PRX

Pope Francis "locked horns" with two of his Jesuit mentors during Argentina's Dirty War.

theworld.org

Ultimately I think he knew he would be assassinated if he was seen to support the Junta. He says he tried to help others (the 2 jesuits) discreetly. One of them agreed with this version. He obviously needed psychotherapy during that time.
He may have acted differently if he had not been so conservative / dogmatic / authoritarian/ out of his depth at that time.

He has become less conservative/ dogmatic/ authoritarian as pope which has angered numbers of conservative people in the machine that is the Church hierarchy and the Curia.

The two Jesuits he supposedly saved had previously been ordered by him to stop helping the poor. One of them went to his grave cursing Bergoglio, who had been implacably opposed to their kind of liberation theology.

It's not so surprising that the man who became Pope had been first and foremost concerned with maintaining the Church's authority - more anti-Communist than anti-Fascist. It's exactly that kind of thing that wins you promotion within the organisation.