8ball
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I think imprisoning him requires a better justification than 'most people don't do it, and people doing things that most people don't is a problem for some people'.
The 'Naked Rambler' jailed for 22 months, following arrest within 60 seconds of his release!
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I think imprisoning him requires a better justification than 'most people don't do it, and people doing things that most people don't is a problem for some people'.
So my view towards naked rambler is because I'm a dick? I haven't even expressed my personal view btw, I explained why it was anti social in the context of our society in my view.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I didn't say that, did i? Because you didn't express your view. But anti-social is not necessarily wrong. Sometimes society is wrong.
joustmaster
offcumdun
I'd love to be able to be naked.
There is nothing sexual about just being naked. If you think so, then something is badly wrong with your head.
Its good that he is trying to stick to his cause, regardless of everything.
There is nothing sexual about just being naked. If you think so, then something is badly wrong with your head.
Its good that he is trying to stick to his cause, regardless of everything.
8ball
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Well, it's not unanimous on here but the law agrees with that assessment. So what is your view?
8ball
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I think what is considered sexual is strongly defined by social norms. It's not about anyone's 'head being wrong', it's a lot more complex than that. I think. God, I sound like some kind of beardy lefty with a room full of books.
joustmaster
offcumdun
Of course its 'wrong in the head' to assume someone just being naked is being sexual.I think what is considered sexual is strongly defined by social norms. It's not about anyone's 'head being wrong', it's a lot more complex than that. I think. God, I sound like some kind of beardy lefty with a room full of books.
"those topless women on them beaches - they're gagging for it, mate"
JimW
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Dirty books, no doubt...God, I sound like some kind of beardy lefty with a room full of books.
8ball
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Dirty books, no doubt
You know what those beardy types are like.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Dirty books, no doubt
Jillie Cooper and Jackie Collins I reckon.
8ball
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I'll give you a clue as to where you might have headed off the piste in your thinking.
This seems an overly emotional/threatening response to my comment, tbh. I agree that nakedness doesn't mean sex or sexual violence in itself, but in the context of the society we live in for many it does. I guess you would argue that the reaction to that should be a shift in attitudes towards nakedness and I would agree. However, one man doing the protest alone will never achieve those aims and those who do conflate male nudity in public with threatening behaviour shouldn't be told they're 'wrong'.FFS!
joustmaster
offcumdun
what do you find or see to be sexual about walking from one point to another?I'll give you a clue as to where you might have headed off the piste in your thinking.
See my last post.
8ball
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I agree with this.
8ball
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No, wrong way. Go back the other way. Look for the orange flags.
joustmaster
offcumdun
8ball
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There's not very much to go on there. I agree with a big part of your point if I'm looking at the right post (#1032), but I don't sense that I share your view.
joustmaster
offcumdun
its a start.
how many people need to join him before you think its ok?
why?
if they are wrong, they are wrong.
I'm hard left libertarian. Personal freedoms galore but a close second to the wishes of the community. But this is in the context of the current society; a patriarchy which deals out shit to women and children. So my view is in that context.
8ball
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I was originally trying to agree with the point that being naked in itself is not exclusively a signal of anything sexual going on in terms of display or intent. That does not mean that you do not bring sexual connotations with you when you get naked outside the 'normal' non-sexual situations where nudity is sanctioned, however.
As an example to highlight the social confusion over this - you made a reference to topless beaches, which you rightly (in my view) say should not be seen as / is not some sexualised arena. However, now try Googling 'topless beaches' and you'll see that society at large is not quite 100% behind us on this.
By that logic, an elderly person who finds non whites alarming shouldn't be told that they're wrong either. Because one person trying to be non racist on his/her own will achieve nothing.
Also I was right on the outer edge of a migraine, and what I said was the absolute truth. It's a state of mind in which I can just about read, can barely type, and the censor (that thing which usually lets you refrain from saying or doing things which you know will hurt, or at least lets you pull your punches) is switched off. Given that situation, I was remarkably self-restrained.
8ball
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I can see where you're coming from, though in most cases I'd put personal freedoms ahead of the wishes of the community (which might sometimes be quite barmy) - which way I'd go with that would depend very much on the particular case. On the whole, if someone individually wants to be a bit barmy in a harmless way, I would not support a barmy community in suppressing them. I'm not trying to draw a direct parallel with this case in saying that, I should point out.
One man can eat a kebab on a packed bus without the consent of everyone else and stink the place out.
Is the answer to get more people eating kebabs on buses or for the singular person to respect the wishes of the majority?
joustmaster
offcumdun
Being naked isn't against the law - it's all the contempt of court / bail terms / probation stuff that gets him jail repeatedly
joustmaster
offcumdun
it rains a lot in scotland, he must be constantly washed. I'm sure his cock smells better than your kebab.
8ball
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Self restrained over what? Ironically you're arguing in favour of people not being self restrained as long as it suits themselves. The elderly person analogy doesn't work as I'm talking about behaviour going against social conditioning of groups and not just the whims of an individual.
Anyone is at liberty to play their music at 100db anywhere in the world as long as it doesn't piss off anyone else. It isn't brain science, is it?
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