The most working-class anarchist group is...

[ernestolynch]

Following on from the 'Can Tarquins be Anarchists?' thread, the question begs - which of the various anarchist groups in England/Yookay have the most working-class people amongst their members, numerically or proportionally?

I'd be inclined to suggest, based upon minutes of research, this ranking:

1. Class War
2. Solidarity Federation
3. Anarchist Federation
4. The Wombles
5. Reclaim the Streets

I'm sure there are other groups, but I've forgotten them. WARNING: Poll to follow!

 

[montevideo]

hmmm...

 

[neilh]

i've not met many from any of those groups, but have met quite a few working class folk who were into reclaim the streets type things/free parties/raves, or even crass type punk stuff going back further(not that i was around then); whether they'd have considered themselves a being part of the group Reclaim the Streets i dont know though

 

[oisleep]

polls taking a while though

must have got distracted and went out to tend to his bush

 

[Idris2002]

Or inflate DDR-made 'Mrs. Ern'.

 

[rednblack]

i would guess - based on london

1.classwar
2.solfed
3.afed
4.wombles
5.-RTS doesnt exist anymore but i've met working and middle class people who were involved

edit-so er ern is probably right

 

[pilchardman]

How could you ignore the Total Liberty Group, Ern. They're even Oop North.

<sniggers>

 

[mk12]

People's Front of Judea...

Are Sol-Fed the only syndicalist group in the UK?

 

[pilchardman]

WARNING: Poll to follow!

When?

Where?

About what?

 

[Nigel Irritable]

There's an IWW group as well. Also part of Organise! in Northern Ireland is syndicalist.

 

[ernestolynch]

IWW is a union which many people join, not solely an 'Anarchist group' - so discounting Reclaim the Streets who we know no don't exist anymore, are there only 4 for the poll then?

 

[ernestolynch]

There's an IWW group as well. Also part of Organise! in Northern Ireland is syndicalist.

I think you mean the north of Ireland and that would be in 'World Politics'.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

If they're syndicalists it wouldn't matter...

 

[Nigel Irritable]

He asked about "the UK", which currently includes Northern Ireland. Not something I'm in favour of, but a fact nonetheless. And the IWW is a syndicalist organisation. The whole point of syndicalism is that it organises workers in a union.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

<anticipates subject matter of next 500 postings>

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Syndicalism?

 

[ernestolynch]

Anyway I couldn't find any more Anarchist Groups so here's the poll - or should I include regional branches?

 

[blamblam]

I don't know any in any of them who don't have to sell their labour power (or sign on) to get by. So I'd say they're probably all around even on the 100% mark. Except RTS which doesn't really exist any more, though there was one owner of means of production in it I believe.

The original question is about as useful as asking how many goths are townies being in them (as they're purely cultural definitions, and thus largely irellevant to class struggle).


IMVHO

 

[ernestolynch]

I don't know any in any of them who don't have to sell their labour power (or sign on) to get by.

So they may even have dibble members?

 

[Belushi]

Which group has the least number of dreadlock/juggling/scholarship-to-Harrow members?

 

[ernestolynch]

Which group has the least number of dreadlock/juggling/scholarship-to-Harrow members?

That's what I want - ratios!

Is the Anarchist Youth Network Jihad-thing still going? Kea? Phototropic? Nosos?

 

[blamblam]

Which group has the least number of dreadlock/juggling/scholarship-to-Harrow members?

That's what I want - ratios!

Right if you want ratios

dreads ratios (NB for the purpose of these figures, Wombles has no membership, it has an activist core + random people who hang around their events, so I'll include the randoms. I'll also add Earth First! cos though it's not anarchist it is the national group RTS was part of), starting with the most to least

1 EF! ~ 100%
2 The Wombles ~ 10%
3 Class War ~ 5%
4= (with none in either AFAIK) Solidarity Federation + Anarchist Federation

Jugglers:

1 EF! ~ 100%
2 The Wombles ~ 50%
3= (with none in any AFAIK) Solidarity Federation + Anarchist Federation + Class War (well if you don't count Black Hand/Gangster )

Public schoolies

1 EF! ~30%
2 The Wombles ~15%
3 Anarchist Federation ~3% (kropotkin + 888 )
4= (with none in any AFAIK) Solidarity Federation + Class War

 

[blamblam]

That's what I want - ratios!

Is the Anarchist Youth Network Jihad-thing still going? Kea? Phototropic? Nosos?

Nah it's not, but the ratios'd probably be, respectively:

10%
99% (everyone except gawkroger)
100% (all Assisted Places, natch )

 

[rednblack]

er - there's one ex public schooly in classwar

 

[Chuck Wilson]

Anyone come across a working class anarchist group in Morecambe ?

 

[joshjosh]

and there's an AF member in Bradford with dreadlocks (this is a good game) i also heard (so it might not be true although it was from someone that knew him) that he went to public school

 

[DaveCinzano]

Nah it's not, but the ratios'd probably be, respectively:

10%
99% (everyone except gawkroger)
100% (all Assisted Places, natch )

surely those are percentages, not ratios?

 

[joshjosh]

a percentage is a kind of ratio isn't it?

(99% is 99:100)

god that was a pedantic post

 

[pilchardman]

a percentage is a kind of ratio isn't it?

(99% is 99:100)

god that was a pedantic post

That, in a really boring way, is sort of true.



it is a good game, though.

I'm not in any of those groups, although I considered joining SolFed so I could get Direct Action (their zine). And I went to a state comp. And I can't juggle. And I have no dreadlocks.

I do, however, have a goatee beard. I'd like to know beard ratios (or percentages). Icer, any figures?

I want to hear about the big beared Italian kropotkin knows, too.

 

[oisleep]

Anyone come across a working class anarchist group in Morecambe ?

<sniggers>