Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

The fall of Manchester City -what's gone wrong?

Not sure why – if you’re a top player capable of pulling City out of the mire – why you’d join a club in Jan with so many questions hanging over them, on and off the field. Surely, you’d be advised to hang fire and see how things pan out.
 
I'm now officially beyond gloating and into pure bemusement. I didn't even look out for the score till now, just thought 'ah this will be when they at least get back to winning games', regardless of the longer term. Bemused. Not gloating.
 
I love how the narrative is all about Haaland missing the penalty and not Pickford saving it. Also, I watched the second half on Amazon Prime and it was rancid, but Everton were the better team by the end. City are lucky Calvert-Lewin can't score goals.

Dycheball strikes again!
 
I love how the narrative is all about Haaland missing the penalty and not Pickford saving it. Also, I watched the second half on Amazon Prime and it was rancid, but Everton were the better team by the end. City are lucky Calvert-Lewin can't score goals.

Dycheball strikes again!
Haaland is (was?) a global superstar striker and shouldn't fuck up like that. That's what gets the clicks not the England goalie.

Meanwhile it looks like we still might finish above United.
 
Haaland is (was?) a global superstar striker and shouldn't fuck up like that. That's what gets the clicks not the England goalie.

Meanwhile it looks like we still might finish above United.
Look, as soon as we sort out this 3 at the back wizardry...
 
Guessing the players suspect they are in line for a pretty hefty points penalty due to the financial fair play stuff so probably think there's no point in busting a gut.

This link says betting markets have them equally likely to get relegated as win the title, which I find remarkable.

 
City fan here. Feeling kinda nostalgic about the 80s!
My take is:
Pep is mentally exhausted and should probably have quit when Klopp did.
His insistence on a small squad is starting to bite.
Transfer dealings have been poor this past four seasons.
Rodri and the failure to get some cover after the Kalvin Phillips experiment went wrong.
Walker and Foden lost their form. And Ederson.
Kev, Ake and Stones are always injured.

And selling enough good youth players who would make a decent Prem team.
Off the top of my head
Muric, Porro, Tosin, Harwood-Bellis, Lavia, Rodgers, Palmer, Sancho. I'm sure I could find another three.

But as someone said above, all empires tumble at some point.
We'll have Phillips back at Leeds if you are unhappy with him.
 
Guessing the players suspect they are in line for a pretty hefty points penalty due to the financial fair play stuff so probably think there's no point in busting a gut.

This link says betting markets have them equally likely to get relegated as win the title, which I find remarkable.

I haven't followed the case since it went to court, how likely is a guilty verdict? Genuine question, as they say.
 
Unsubstantiated theory time:

Knowing that any sort of hearing/court case against Man City was likely to come this season, Pep decided he would leave at the end of last season - specifically for the England job.
I think he thought once Southgate had left his position, the FA would just sweep in for him.

That didn't happen, and quitting would be be akin to acknowledging Mam Coty's guilt, so he's got himself in a situation where he doesn't want to be there, the players don't want to be there, and the club can't really buy anyone because to do so may turn out the financially ruinous if the worse was going to happen (ie expulsion from the league).

Plus if you're an agent, then you'd surely demand that any player that did sign had a relegation release clause in their contract or risk them playing in League Two season.
 
Unsubstantiated theory time:

Knowing that any sort of hearing/court case against Man City was likely to come this season, Pep decided he would leave at the end of last season - specifically for the England job.
I think he thought once Southgate had left his position, the FA would just sweep in for him.

That didn't happen, and quitting would be be akin to acknowledging Mam Coty's guilt, so he's got himself in a situation where he doesn't want to be there, the players don't want to be there, and the club can't really buy anyone because to do so may turn out the financially ruinous if the worse was going to happen (ie expulsion from the league).

Plus if you're an agent, then you'd surely demand that any player that did sign had a relegation release clause in their contract or risk them playing in League Two season.
I always think great managers have a better time of it at a club and prefer the greater control they at least used to have. Don't think Ferguson ever seriously considered going for the England job for example. So, I'm not convinced. I am though beginning to wonder if they court case is part of fall off in form or maybe even that Pep hasn't managed to get an 'all for one' attitude in response to it.

Other thing I'd add is that I've never particularly liked his interview persona, though he does seem a bit more humble now they are losing. Also, I have my doubts that he's stay with the club, fighting their way back from the Championship or EFL.
 
I haven't followed the case since it went to court, how likely is a guilty verdict? Genuine question, as they say.
It's a three person panel performing the role of an 'independent commission ' overseen by Murray Rosen according to the blurb. The three members have been selected by Murray Rosen KC, the chair of the Premier League's judicial panel from the 15 member panel. Rosen is an Arsenal supporter as is Man City's lead QC .

There is also an appeal process but it doesn't go to the CAS ( Court of Arbitration for Sport). If there were to be sanctions etc following the hearing then these would be suspended in the event of an appeal. An appeal would be heard by a new three person panel selected by Rosen from the FA's appeal panel which currently has six members.
 
It's a three person panel performing the role of an 'independent commission ' overseen by Murray Rosen according to the blurb. The three members have been selected by Murray Rosen KC, the chair of the Premier League's judicial panel from the 15 member panel. Rosen is an Arsenal supporter as is Man City's lead QC .

There is also an appeal process but it doesn't go to the CAS ( Court of Arbitration for Sport). If there were to be sanctions etc following the hearing then these would be suspended in the event of an appeal. An appeal would be heard by a new three person panel selected by Rosen from the FA's appeal panel which currently has six members.
Ta.
 
Back
Top Bottom