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The end of scab tills

brogdale said:
For the record, I do scab at the "self-service" tills when I need to buy a £1.70 tin of (branded) soup using the 19p spaghetti rings 'decoy.
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So neoliberalism is mostly shit. The withdrawal of labour is shit but on the plus side you can have a thieve up which we all ultimately pay for because any financial losses incurred are retrieved quite easily by price increases to their products.

Is using a cashpoint rather than going to a bank/ building society ( during opening hours) to be hand dealt your cash by a human not a form of scabbing too if we're using the same logic that's being applied to self service tills?


For the record i have used self service tills the grand total of three times since there inception. Partly because most of them are card only and i prefer to do what i've done for the last 45 years or so and use cash. And also, more relevant to the bigger stores- The manned checkouts also serve as a source for human interaction for many older folk and those that live on there own. The old boy that lives next to me goes to Sainsbury three/four times a week to get a few bits here and there and has a good old chin wag with the girls on the tills who all know him and many more like him. He purposely goes at a certain time in the morning when it's relaxed and not busy. It might be the only chance for a bit of conversation and socialising that many in his position will get in a day. Local pubs that were once affordable, a meeting place and hubs of the community no longer exist for that purpose in many gentrified parts of south London.
 
sealion said:
So neoliberalism is mostly shit. The withdrawal of labour is shit but on the plus side you can have a thieve up which we all ultimately pay for because any financial losses incurred are retrieved quite easily by price increases to their products.

Is using a cashpoint rather than going to a bank/ building society ( during opening hours) to be hand dealt your cash by a human not a form of scabbing too if we're using the same logic that's being applied to self service tills?


For the record i have used self service tills the grand total of three times since there inception. Partly because most of them are card only and i prefer to do what i've done for the last 45 years or so and use cash. And also, more relevant to the bigger stores- The manned checkouts also serve as a source for human interaction for many older folk and those that live on there own. The old boy that lives next to me goes to Sainsbury three/four times a week to get a few bits here and there and has a good old chin wag with the girls on the tills who all know him and many more like him. He purposely goes at a certain time in the morning when it's relaxed and not busy. It might be the only chance for a bit of conversation and socialising that many in his position will get in a day. Local pubs that were once affordable, a meeting place and hubs of the community no longer exist for that purpose in many gentrified parts of south London.
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Yeah, I'll take the wrap...but tbf I have been quite open about my little bit of 'theft'-based hypocrisy.

As to the rest of your post; spot on.
 
brogdale said:
Yeah, I'll take the wrap...but tbf I have been quite open about my little bit of 'theft'-based hypocrisy.
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You have and none of us are saints. Those without sin and all that............................... I can imagine even the most straightest of people have a had a go at least once. Friend of mine indulged once to my utter surprise. I'm talking about a person that wouldn't skin up at Notting hill carnival for fear of getting nicked :D
Down in Brighton for the day and we head over to the Morisons for some munch. Deli counter and a few cans of pop and out. Back across on the beach and my mate informs us that he only paid for his drink at the self checkout and nicked his food :eek::eek: Fucking hell Luke you actually nicked it? Yeah and i feel terrible but only done it just get something back off these thieving bastards that i've been shopping with for years, it's more spite and levelling up than anything else. He said that he felt like he'd won something by getting his salad bowl for free :D
 
sealion said:
You have and none of us are saints. Those without sin and all that............................... I can imagine even the most straightest of people have a had a go at least once. Friend of mine indulged once to my utter surprise. I'm talking about a person that wouldn't skin up at Notting hill carnival for fear of getting nicked :D
Down in Brighton for the day and we head over to the Morisons for some munch. Deli counter and a few cans of pop and out. Back across on the beach and my mate informs us that he only paid for his drink at the self checkout and nicked his food :eek::eek: Fucking hell Luke you actually nicked it? Yeah and i feel terrible but only done it just get something back off these thieving bastards that i've been shopping with for years, it's more spite and levelling up than anything else. He said that he felt like he'd won something by getting his salad bowl for free :D
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I also have a little confession regarding Brighton; last time my eldest & his OH took me to Whitehawk he paid at the turnstile. It wasn't until we were sat down that he casually asked me how much I'd paid/if I'd got an OAP rate. It was then that it dawned on us all that he hadn't paid for me and I'd just waltzed on through past the dopey ticket chap!

Confession is....I didn't go back to pay, but safe to say the mighty Hawks benefitted in bar takings! :D
 
brogdale said:
But here's the thing...who amongst has ever been trained or instructed how to use scab tills accurately? They want our labour for free but don't seem to recognise that without training workplace errors will creep in.
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That's a good point!
 
UnderOpenSky said:
I'd like to claim a moral high ground that I don't steal from supermarkets as it's just wrong, but if I'm really honest with myself, it's because I'm scared of being caught and having to explain it on a DBS check.
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A very fair comment and maybe being free of the shackles of the 'labour market' has liberated my inner criminal! :D
 
brogdale said:
Mrs B sometimes purchases a product known as alcohol-free beer and on at least one occasion she had to wait for staff (age) approval before being allowed to check out.
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In my early twenties I once went to a shop (in my head it was the big Morrison's in Bradford, but that might be wrong, it was probably in Leeds, so it might not have been a Morrison's come to think of it) with a friend who was a year or two older than me and wasn't drinking at the time. I bought a can of cider or something, my mate bought a bottle of alcohol-free beer and got ID'd, since he didn't have any ID on him they refused to sell him the alcohol-free beer and also took my cider off me in case I gave it to my older, teetotal mate once we got outside. And that was at a proper old-fashioned staffed till as well.
 
I had the paracetamol thing when I was at a till. I used to just explain that it’s how it’s set up (& the legality) and they could join the queue again and we’d treat it as a separate transaction. Some people understood and some arseholes didn’t. C’est La vie baby.
 
mentalchik said:
I am finding it very strange that so many on here are moaning about self scan but quite happy to admit to being a thief......:rolleyes:
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Yeah, I see your moral high ground but when corporations compel customers to provide the labour without training, they'd have to prove intent (over a workplace human error) to call it theft. They did, of course, factor this in when they decided to sack so many of your colleagues.
 
seeformiles said:
I had the paracetamol thing when I was at a till. I used to just explain that it’s how it’s set up (& the legality) and they could join the queue again and we’d treat it as a separate transaction. Some people understood and some arseholes didn’t. C’est La vie baby.
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I tried that once, but was still refused
 
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