The dubious journalism of the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg

[Chilli.s]

I despair every time Kuenssberg reports anything. It's obvious where her political sympathies lie. No doubt she's scratching backs that will set her up at sometime in the future with well paid reward. Beeb should dich her pronto.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The BBC is not going to ditch her for doing the job it hired her to do.

 

[MrSki]

Shame the English papers are not up to their Scottish counterparts.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

You must be fucking kidding if you think a state broadcaster can be impartial. Jesus, people here still have faith in this shit.

Yep regular BBC cheerleader here

 

[Badgers]

Skills

 

[Lord Camomile]

medwar93 worked somewhere for 35 years...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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Skills

Nurses work shifts so plenty of time for a second job, JLR staff are always on strike so plenty of time to do a spot of nursing...

 

[Badgers]

Nurses work shifts so plenty of time for a second job, JLR staff are always on strike so plenty of time to do a spot of nursing...

You honestly believe that?

 

[Azrael]

I despair every time Kuenssberg reports anything. It's obvious where her political sympathies lie. No doubt she's scratching backs that will set her up at sometime in the future with well paid reward. Beeb should dich her pronto.

Less obvious is how any job or other reward she's handed by the Tories could possibly compensate her for the disdain and ridicule in which she's mired herself and her once-proud corporation. It's not like her current post lacks for prestige, power or cash reward. What inducements could be worth descending to this?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You honestly believe that?

Of course, people wouldn't tell lies for political gain, well not the tories, surely...?

 

[Badgers]

Of course, people wouldn't tell lies for political gain, well not the tories, surely...?

 

[YouSir]

Less obvious is how any job or other reward she's handed by the Tories could possibly compensate her for the disdain and ridicule in which she's mired herself and her once-proud corporation. It's not like her current post lacks for prestige, power or cash reward. What inducements could be worth descending to this?

The praise of and a sense of belonging with her peers. Don't make the mistake of imagining she or any of her other failed journalist pals give a fuck what you or I think of them.

Plus, I'm guessing, an honour down the road and a safe job in PR or something for the retirement.

 

[Azrael]

The praise of and a sense of belonging with her peers. Don't make the mistake of imagining she or any of her other failed journalist pals give a fuck what you or I think of them.

Plus, I'm guessing, an honour down the road and a safe job in PR or something for the retirement.

Several of her peers have been openly ridiculing her, and unless she's aiming to be a channel controller or on the board, she's already at the top of her career. She could smooth the government's path without the blundering.

There could be some quid pro quo, but just as likely is that she's viewed as a safe pair of hands who'll unthinkingly take the Tory line in return for access. Why rely on inducements when you don't have to? The lobby system may not have been designed to tame journalists, but it could've well have been.

 

[MrSki]

Well caused another twitter storm today. Reporting that postal votes don't look good for Labour. How can she know? I thought they didn't get opened until the count?

 

[Badgers]

Boom

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Well caused another twitter storm today. Reporting that postal votes don't look good for Labour. How can she know? I thought they didn't get opened until the count?

they can be opened but you aren't allowed to talk about the results, in fact I believe it's a criminal offence

 

[Badgers]

they can be opened but you aren't allowed to talk about the results, in fact I believe it's a criminal offence

Criminal for normal members of the public or anyone?

 

[Badgers]

Anyone else get the feeling that we are barely scratching the surface of the electoral fraud/distraction/lies here?

 

[killer b]

The criminal offence is committed by the person who's counted and talked about them. I don't think reporting what you've been told - dodgy as it surely is - is an offence

 

[MrSki]

Rep of the People Act 1983, s.66 Every person ... in connection with the receipt of ballot papers for people voting by post .. shall maintain the secrecy of voting and shall not ..communicate *any* information If a person acts in contravention, liable...up to 6 months in prison

 

[Badgers]

The criminal offence is committed by the person who's counted and talked about them. I don't think reporting what you've been told - dodgy as it surely is - is an offence

The police could insist she reveal her source
Hopefully that would fuck the source and her for being a loud mouth cunt

 

[FridgeMagnet]

The criminal offence is committed by the person who's counted and talked about them. I don't think reporting what you've been told - dodgy as it surely is - is an offence

Paul Mason tweeted that the BBC's own guidelines say "don't do this, it's a criminal offence". I'm not sure what the specific electoral law is tbh. I expect it will come out.

Concerns me that it going around madly on Twitter actually boosts the visibility of the statement and gives it more effect.

 

[MrSki]

Can't put the genie back in the bottle & it might inspire a higher turn out tomorrow. (Hopefully)

 

[a_chap]

Well caused another twitter storm today. Reporting that postal votes don't look good for Labour. How can she know? I thought they didn't get opened until the count?

Some people seem to think Kuenssberg's showing a slight degree of bias...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The criminal offence is committed by the person who's counted and talked about them. I don't think reporting what you've been told - dodgy as it surely is - is an offence

In the same way that, e.g. Jeremy Vine will not be doing a show tomorrow, journos have to be very fucking careful with what they report within certain time of an election. What she said there clearly crosses a line, that kind of shit can not be reported until after 10pm tomorrow.

 

[Badgers]

Anyone else get the feeling that we are barely scratching the surface of the electoral fraud/distraction/lies here?

Concerns me that it going around madly on Twitter actually boosts the visibility of the statement and gives it more effect.

This is the issue. Voting is (and always has been tribal) so when a lie is told the tribes share it wide. Any correction on the lie is treated defensively.

I was speaking to a retired couple (pretty right wing) last week and they will not listen to reason. Brexit is the best solution for everyone, Labour will take their homes and open the floodgates to loads of foreigners, etc' and they will never back down. If they saw video of Johnson kicking a disabled Jewish child down the road they would still vote for him.

 

[killer b]

In the same way that, e.g. Jeremy Vine will not be doing a show tomorrow, journos have to be very fucking careful with what they report within certain time of an election. What she said there clearly crosses a line, that kind of shit can not be reported until after 10pm tomorrow.

Maybe it does, but it's a different line to the one people are saying she's crossed, re: the representation of the people act, I'm fairly sure.

Either way I'm willing to bet she never faces any kind of charge, and is unlikely to even be reprimanded or censured for it.

 

[andysays]

I was under the impression, don't know from where, that while they might open the envelopes of postal votes beforehand, they didn't start counting them until the polling stations were closed, to avoid any possibility of this happening

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The criminal offence is committed by the person who's counted and talked about them. I don't think reporting what you've been told - dodgy as it surely is - is an offence

I dunno about that. She's not just some random. She's a political journalist who should know the law in this regard.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Either way I'm willing to bet she never faces any kind of charge, and is unlikely to even be reprimanded or censured for it.

Of course she won't, she works for the BBC and was promoting Johnson over Corbyn.