The Dominic Cummings file

[elbows]

Johnson as the mayor from Jaws just came up again. Border controls lol.

Did the mayor from Jaws wear flip-flops?

 

[Wilf]

I've only dipped into cummings revenge mission evidence but it's not looking too desperate for Johnson. Shows him as a dishonest, lazy bumbler but, y'know... Sets hancock up as the sacrifice if they need one in the next few months, but I doubt that they will. In the end this is about an 80 seat majority, kieth and a world without 'standards' in public life. Even one where tens of thousands died needlessly.

 

[elbows]

I think he's actually quite nervous, he's been less articulate than you'd expect throughout.

I've seen him speak in public before, so his level of articulation was not unexpected to me. I'm a nerd and I dont use the term as an insult, but Cummings is not a full classic nerd, he is part nerd, part well I dont know what, I'll let others fill in that bit.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Pretty damning stuff, but not much that hasn't been figured out or discussed on here at length

 

[BillRiver]

I've seen him speak in public before, so his level of articulation was not unexpected to me. I'm a nerd and I dont use the term as an insult, but Cummings is not a full classic nerd, he is part nerd, part well I dont know what, I'll let others fill in that bit.

Eugenicist?

 

[maomao]

I've seen him speak in public before, so his level of articulation was not unexpected to me. I'm a nerd and I dont use the term as an insult, but Cummings is not a full classic nerd, he is part nerd, part well I dont know what, I'll let others fill in that bit.

Cunt.

 

[Steel Icarus]

"He says he told the PM he wasn't prepared to work with Matt Hancock any more but the PM admitted he was more frightened of Cummings having the power to make changes than taking the action he wanted."

Thanks BBC, that's not what Cummings said now is it?

 

[Wilf]

hancock has that kieth like look of terrified desperation when he's pressed in an interview. There is at least that to look forward to.

 

[Steel Icarus]

hancock has that kieth like look of terrified desperation when he's pressed in an interview. There is at least that to look forward to.

Two weeks time

 

[elbows]

"He says he told the PM he wasn't prepared to work with Matt Hancock any more but the PM admitted he was more frightened of Cummings having the power to make changes than taking the action he wanted."

Thanks BBC, that's not what Cummings said now is it?

Yeah they have airbrushed the 'chaos' stuff out of that. And Johnsons ability to harness the chaos to reinforce his own power.

 

[Sue]

Cunt.

That'll do .

 

[Wilf]

Two weeks time

kieth looks like he's close to tears in interviews. hancock just looks smaller and more irrelevant when piers morgan shouts at him. Obviously not gavin williamson level irrelevance, that's the gold standard of snivelling incompetence. It's just hancock has been allowed to play out his vapid pointlessness in a matter of life and death. It's like putting the offspring of a wet fart and the vacuum of space in charge of running the armed forces in a world war.

 

[neonwilderness]

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You’re right, I am more frightened of you having the power to stop the chaos around than the chaos. Chaos is not bad. Chaos means that everyone has to look to me to see who’s in charge.

Not for the first time, Ian Kershaw comes to mind

Working towards the Fuhrer

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So he's actually a hero. As Barnard Castle proves.

I see now.

 

[neonwilderness]

He's still talking shite. Surely if he was so ill and was only worried about security he'd have gone with the alternative and just moved his family into government accommodation?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Interesting ol' Dom has said twice now that Spaghetti Head "almost died" when the reporting of his COVID infection was that of bravely shrugging it off with a giggle and a wave (and some pretty heavy oxygen infusions)

 

[killer b]

really? My memory of it was that the reporting (eventually) was that he almost died?

 

[Pickman's model]

Interesting ol' Dom has said twice now that Spaghetti Head "almost died" when the reporting of his COVID infection was that of bravely shrugging it off with a giggle and a wave (and some pretty heavy oxygen infusions)

And some strepsils

 

[neonwilderness]

really? My memory of it was that the reporting (eventually) was that he almost died?

He was fine once he'd been for his eye test, apparently

 

[Steel Icarus]

really? My memory of it was that the reporting (eventually) was that he almost died?

Maybe. I don't remember the "eventually" bit, only that at the time it was not reported as being very serious, being in the ICU was precautionary, etc

 

[Ted Striker]

Hunt finally asks the Q on having his kid in the car for the eye test drive. Revenge for the earlier digs from DC on the state of the health dept.

 

[killer b]

Maybe. I don't remember the "eventually" bit, only that at the time it was not reported as being very serious, being in the ICU was precautionary, etc

that was the official line, but lots of the reporting questioned it.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Yes Zarah

 

[krink]

my wifi seems dodgy (which is insane since I've had both covid5G jabs) can someone confirm where we're up to? Is he currently talking about chicken pox?

 

[WWWeed]

Its hard to predict what stuff can scupper people like Johnson. Serial 'winners' like him and Trump are described as bulletproof and people to whom mud wont stick, right up until the moment when that suddenly isnt true. Their special shield rarely lasts forever, but its hard to predict the exact conditions that will bring about its ultimate failure.

I think it's a bit like when a dam fails. Starts of with a few cracks and leaks that ultimately lead to complete structural collapse. We are definitely seeing the initial cracks get bigger. I'm just not sure if it applies to Boris or the Tories in general (hopefully it's both!)

 

[Dogsauce]

Tbh we’ve already had ‘let the bodies pile up’ and his approval has continued to rise. There’s pretty much nothing that can dent him, particularly with a tame media and even tamer opposition.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Problem is he's telling porkies all the way through, even about stuff that doesn't really matter. So he would have made masks compulsory at the start. Really? How come he wasn't wearing a mask at Barnard Castle when he knew he was infected, then?

 

[Wilf]

I think it's a bit like when a dam fails. Starts of with a few cracks and leaks that ultimately lead to complete structural collapse. We are definitely seeing the initial cracks get bigger. I'm just not sure if it applies to Boris or the Tories in general (hopefully it's both!)

cummings has just said 'tens of thousands died unnecessarily'. That should be pretty significant and 'normally' you'd expect a process whereby that would be taken up by other parties, anti-johnson tories, the media and the rest, to the point where it becomes something, a 'moment', certainly the death knell for johnson as party leader (even if didn't end up actually leaving no. 10 for 18 months). You might be right in terms of 'cracks', I fucking hope so, even though it won't change the regime itself. I'm just not sure how it plays out and who the key players will be in terms of playing it out. Cheap digs aside, kieth isn't the one to link this issue up with the long term suffering of working class communities.

 

[spitfire]

All this is going to take the sting out of the enquiry somewhat isn't it? Everyone will be, "oh yeah we know all that already." Assuming he's telling the truth...