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The Dominic Cummings file
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bimble
floofy
idk, that story is nice (for Johnson) but doesn't fit so well with any of his past behaviour, much easier to picture cummings saying fuck you i'm off that Johnson sacking him.
bimble
floofy
Reminder that he did say, in that mad job advert, that he was planning to make himself "largely redundant' within a year, that was published on his blog on the 2nd January. So i don't think this gone by christmas is much of a sacking, and shouldn't be allowed to make Johnson look in any way more competent or in control of anything at all.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
It's just a shame this shit simply doesn't matter to millions of people
maomao
普費斯
I can't see this making much difference tbh and certainly not a positive one. Remember one of the accusations is that it was Cummings and Cain that leaked in order to force us into lockdown. So presumably without them we'd all still be eating out to help out while the bodies pile up.
In which Laura Kuenssberg finally admits she's getting things direct from Cummings:
I suspect the ructions in No.10 are connected with Brexit. It really is decision time now whether to accept a deal with Brussels or go for the full 'no deal.' AFAIK Cummings favours the latter, but it's become a lot less palatable in the wake of the US Election, and there do seem to be others urging a deal, or perhaps a last-ditch attempt to extend transition.
I suspect the ructions in No.10 are connected with Brexit. It really is decision time now whether to accept a deal with Brussels or go for the full 'no deal.' AFAIK Cummings favours the latter, but it's become a lot less palatable in the wake of the US Election, and there do seem to be others urging a deal, or perhaps a last-ditch attempt to extend transition.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Getting out before have to deal with Brexit.
He will just deal with the profits from Covid-19 and Brexit. The poor lamb.
I'm not so sure about that. Cummings is pretty open about wanting to reshape the machinery of state along the lines of his technocratic vision of the future, and the disruption caused by Brexit - not to mention freedom from EU rules - is/was an opportunity for him to do that, and yet he's barely started. This seems an odd time for him to walk away of his own accord. Assuming the stories are accurate, of course, and not some sort of dead cat.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Spending more time with his money
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I won't believe it until there's a stake through his heart
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Maybe he found writing long blog posts a bit easier than actually governing.
We have the worst Covid stats in Europe, despite his super-forecasters and weirdos.
Or maybe a crap deal with the EU is in the offing?
Tbf the fact he's proved himself to be spectacularly shit at governing might well have something to do with it. Certainly that and his open contempt for MPs have turned a large part of the Tory party against him, and that looks to be a factor in his sudden demise. I don't think he's the humility or self-awareness to realise how badly he's fucked up and go of his own accord.
As for the EU deal, it'll certainly be crap, but Cummings has at times been an advocate for no deal at all, and now it's decision time. I can't help thinking that's played some role in provoking the current civil war in No.10, though quite how isn't clear.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Couple of things that strike me with Cain going and Cummings potentially going . Firstly the Head of the Policy Unit is ex RCP whether she is next in line or not I dunno. Secondly some of the reported kick back against Cain and Cummings is that they are not Tories but ‘activists and strategists’ and the need to have ‘real’ Tories in their positions. I’m not sure how much they contributed to the Northern seats being won or the vision of ‘the People's Govt’ however ‘real’ Tories aren’t going to be able maintain or really capitalise on the W/class Tory vote .
ska invita
back on the other side
True...thats the narrative....though up to now tub thumping about Brexit is all you can really say he's done to contribute to northern seats being won. That and boosting the tourist income of Barnard Castle
ska invita
back on the other side
a much richer vocabulary was going on when everyone was waking up and drinking ale for breakfast
the british news media are doing the catching, for sure.
Not only verbally. I love the eighteenth-century satirists, and perhaps especially James Gillray. Given current events this gem of his from 1793 seems quite apt:
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I know that the Policy Unit led by the ex RCP woman but reporting to him have come out with several strategies re the Northern Seats and the economy . The Northern Tory grouping lobby seems to have been promoted from that . Not saying Cummings has been the author but the policy unit he runs have been a major catalyst .
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It all seems pretty obvious to me.
Various bits of the media are now transparently obvious mouthpieces of government advisor propaganda and just about nothing else. Do they know they're being used like this? It's hard to believe that they don't. Well-paid mouthpieces, I guess.
ska invita
back on the other side
Has any of this (whatever it is) actually happened though?
The commentary on this today is really weird - everyone's talking like he's confirmed he's definitely going this year, when all he did was give Kuenssberg a really vague and not at all definite hint that he might be going last night. Have I missed something more concrete today?
It all seems pretty obvious to me.
Various bits of the media are now transparently obvious mouthpieces of government advisor propaganda and just about nothing else. Do they know they're being used like this? It's hard to believe that they don't. Well-paid mouthpieces, I guess.
Oh aye, Kuenssberg has basically functioned as Bluetooth speakers for Cummings for the last couple of years at least. She's not daft: she must know exactly what she's doing.
Not quite sure what you mean seems obvious, though?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The Northern Tory grouping has started and lobbied Johnson over some flesh on the bones of his spending promised for the North. One of the unexpected features was the Tory MPs in Greater Manchester temporarily backing the GM line on Tier3 although they seem to have settled more on a ‘we support the GM position but Burnhams ego is the stumbling block’ line. Aside from that very little and a convenient opportunity for municipal Labour leaders to plug the north south divide . However at some point if the Tories are relying on anything else aside from Starmer failing to win back Labour votes , they are going to have to at least throw some cash or have a more serious strategy. If it’s the latter then hallo policy unit and a potential uneasyness from the traditional Tory MP in the south ?
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