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The Dominic Cummings file

I guess one of the major differences between Trump and Johnson is that Trump is from outside the party system. Indeed, he's a former donor to Hilary Clinton's state campaign.

Maybe there's more synthesis between him and Cummings, as the supposed outsider, smashing the system from within.
I think you've nailed it. Trump is Trump's cummings, with the hapless circle around him - jared, Ivanka, Pompeo, Barr, McEmany, Donald Jr, Mnuxchin, Esper etc - are Johnson and his cabinet.
Trump is much, much more hands-on and in control than Johnson. Which is fucking scary.
 
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Jim'll Paint It does his thing:
Please could you paint Dominic Cummings sat naked and bloody holding his own eyes (Event Horizon style) upon a throne of eyes at Barnard Castle, accompanied by various eye themed characters such as Mike Wazowski, Krumm, Alpha Centauri, the Harryhausen cyclops and that lad from Pans Labyrinth etc.

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Too much laid back pisstaking and humour about Cummings in this thread lately :D :cool: :hmm:

So for actual history :

Last Saturday, Andy Beckett ;) compared Cummings to Thatcher's chief policy advisor, John Hoskyns :

Guardian headline said:
This is the man in No 10 who inspired Cummings – and he didn't last long

John Hoskyns, Margaret Thatcher’s head of policy, also wanted to shake up Whitehall. He left, disappointed and frustrated

Conclusion said:
Will something similar happen with Cummings? His approach to reforming government seems more hurried and haphazard than Hoskyns’ – perhaps a sign of a more impatient age. But he also has more power, and that may keep him in Downing Street longer.
Yet his dominance is really a sign of current Conservatism’s underlying weakness. The Johnson government, unlike Thatcher’s, doesn’t contain many able politicians or fresh thinkers. Conservatism is no longer the rising movement it was in the 80s.
At some point, the irresistible force of Cummings will meet an immovable object: the widespread scepticism, among voters as much as civil servants, that Britain needs yet more disruptive rightwing government. There may be fireworks, or the frustration of his plans may be quieter. But it’s unlikely he’ll leave Downing Street a contented man.

Worth a full read! :)
 
I wonder if the current tory cunts will enjoy their spitting image equivalents as much as some of Thatcher & Co apparently revelled in their puppets.


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I fear that, given how he's fashioned his public persona over the past thirty years, I suspect whatever they do to Johnson will further embed the appeal he has to too many people.
 


TBF I think Crerar et al are taking the wrong path there, demanding the evidence that No.10 has. - I am sure they (No.10) can prove that a phone was in London during the 19th of April and say it was Cummings' phone.

The ANPR of all the family vehicles during that time would be a much better thing to ask about, because we have already been given a list of his movements to check it against.
 
I could be wrong but I do believe/hope the press has a lot more evidence but that they are playing the long game and allowing him, in his arrogance, to tie himself up in lies.
Letting him think he is getting away with it and then, boom, hitting him with the next indiscretion/breaking of the rules evidence they have - over and over - seems much more satisfying. :)
 
Did Cummings state that he only made one trip? If he did state that but actually made two he could risk punishment because of a lie to the public.

If he didn't state that he only made one trip, two trips four it wouldn't really matter, he already stated that he didn't think one trip was outside the guidelines so two would also be within them according to him.

I don't see his number plate being scanned - that would be a wakeup call for personal freedoms, but the cell information for his mobile phone would clearly indicate where in the country he was on pretty much any day.
 
Did Cummings state that he only made one trip? If he did state that but actually made two he could risk punishment because of a lie to the public.
The only reason that this is still a story is because Cummings insisted that he'd made only the one trip, but various witnesses claim to have seen him Up North on a separate occasion.

I don't see his number plate being scanned - that would be a wakeup call for personal freedoms, but the cell information for his mobile phone would clearly indicate where in the country he was on pretty much any day.
Er, ANPR is fairly routinely used in the UK in all kinds of situations: I think you may have overslept on the personal freedoms front ;). Not to mention that cell information from a mobile would be a far more fine-grained infringement of anyone's freedoms, so your reassuredness re ANPR vs mobile tracking is slightly counter-intuitive :thumbs:
 
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