*The Archers thread

[wiskey]

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Freda. One of those normal peple that only pops up once every couple of months. Bartleby's the Aldridge's dog yeah?

Trufact. I went to college with Jazzer. That's his real accent.

Freda is a 'silent character' ... I quite like her.

Bartleby is the horse.

 

[wiskey]

Having just heard the repeat of the wedding I'm wondering if the tractor thing tipped Tom over.

 

[trashpony]

Having just heard the repeat of the wedding I'm wondering if the tractor thing tipped Tom over.

I only heard the end of it. I liked Kirsty's wail much more this time and laughed out loud at Joe at the end

 

[wiskey]

I thought Kirsty did well at giving him a hard time 'you humiliated me' etc ....

... but I still feel sorry for Tom

 

[TikkiB]

He's going to have a nervous breakdown and no mistake. And yes, I think it was the tractor that was the final straw

 

[weltweit]

Blimey ....

Warra palarver

 

[TikkiB]

this isn't going to end well for Tom.

 

[weltweit]

this isn't going to end well for Tom.

Eaten by his own pigs ?

 

[a_chap]

The end credits included the "Agricultural advisor". Not much farming in that episode...

 

[TikkiB]

Eaten by his own pigs ?

possibly, or found facedown in a pool of slurry. (does slurry have pools?)

 

[trashpony]

Tom can't die. However annoying patntony are, they don't deserve to have only one child and that child to be Hellin

 

[wiskey]

Tom can't die. However annoying patntony are, they don't deserve to have only one child and that child to be Hellin

That actually made me lol!

 

[RedDragon]

poor Tom

 

[wiskey]

He did sound properly broken when he realised his family didn't understand

 

[susie12]

Why did he think they would? I thought it showed his overweaning self obsession. Can't wait for the credit card bills to come in.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Tom can't die. However annoying patntony are, they don't deserve to have only one child and that child to be Hellin

There's an interview in the Guardian with the new editor...

"O'Connor sees Helen Archer as a damaged heroine drawn from Ibsen"

Maybe we are misunderestimating her

 

[TikkiB]

There's an interview in the Guardian with the new editor...

"O'Connor sees Helen Archer as a damaged heroine drawn from Ibsen"

Maybe we are misunderestimating her

Does that mean she shoots herself at some point?

 

[a_chap]

...from Ibsen

Eh? She's from the Balearic Islands? It'll be all that non-stop partying then.

 

[susie12]

The new ed also said Pat and Tony are like the Plantaganets and with the Hardy omens that seem to being scattered about everywhere, there must be bloodshed at some point. Ibsen wasn't exactly a ray of sunshine either.

 

[RedDragon]

Why did he think they would? I thought it showed his overweaning self obsession. Can't wait for the credit card bills to come in.

I didn't see it like that, rather a delayed grief around the loss of his brother and the person he thought he should be to compensate.

 

[susie12]

[I didn't see it like that, rather a delayed grief around the loss of his brother and the person he thought he should be to compensate.]

Tony's comments didn't help, but even so he didn't have to do it in quite such a brutal way.

 

[a_chap]

Ah, not Ibiza then.

 

[wiskey]

[I didn't see it like that, rather a delayed grief around the loss of his brother and the person he thought he should be to compensate.]

Tony's comments didn't help, but even so he didn't have to do it in quite such a brutal way.

No he didn't, esp not when his gran had warned him to do it the night before.

But yes, I think he's mourning the loss of Tommy. I mean he just dropped right in to being John, even the pigs were John's weren't they?

 

[a_chap]

Being serious for a moment, one of my best friends comitted suicide after a blazing row with his parents.

If the scriptwriters have planned that for Tom I'll be in pieces. It is the most tragic thing possible.

 

[wiskey]

I'm very sorry a_chap, what a tragic event.

 

[davesgcr]

Looking something like that - am afraid ........

 

[Manter]

I've been on holiday (actually am still away) and shouldn't have read this thread. I'm agog, I tell you, agog!

 

[TikkiB]

oh Manter you going to love catching up with all this.

I have to say I'm very happy to see such a long narrative arc to The Archers. It feels like a reward for having been a long time listener. Having said that, this has been done much better than John's secret son story.

I always thought the way Tom stepped into John's shoes was sudden, only a few months before John's death he was being arrested for damaging GM crops and it was always sad to see that passion diverted into money making.

It's just sad he didn't share any of it with Kirstie, she'd have understood.

 

[a_chap]

I'm going to struggle with the way Tom's storyline is going.

Over thirty years ago one of my best friends comitted suicide after a huge row with his Dad. I still get tearful about it even now.

I hope I'm very wrong on the Archers' potential plotline.

 

[wayward bob]

sorry to hear that a_chap. looks likely to me too.