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And, in regards to the muppets, visible representation of race is a complete no go area?
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And, in regards to the muppets, visible representation of race is a complete no go area?
We're discussing a current television show and not one that was discontinued in the early 80s.
krtek a houby
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Yes, so why the reticence to address the question?
I don't think they should have had a Swedish (?) chef and kept all the characters racially ambiguous. Happy?
Back to voice artists though, if you look at this page there already is/was a mix in Sesame Street.
Sesame Street
717 images (& sounds) of the Sesame Street cast of characters. Photos of the Sesame Street (Show) voice actors.
www.behindthevoiceactors.com
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
I don't think they should have had a Swedish (?) chef and kept all the characters racially ambiguous. Happy?
Back to voice artists though, if you look at this page there already is/was a mix in Sesame Street.
Sesame Street
717 images (& sounds) of the Sesame Street cast of characters. Photos of the Sesame Street (Show) voice actors.
So, you do want more representation in the muppets onscreen. Good to know.
The show discontinued in 1981. Maybe we could chat about 1731 also given it’s also irrelevant.
… who wasn’t acted by anyone from Sweden.
As a child I don't think I minded? Hf my family moved to the US with their Irish accents. I just thought the Swedish chef was a Swedish chef in the US.
… who wasn’t acted by anyone from Sweden.
To be honest....
Puppets are all about imagination.
You can be whoever you want as a puppet. You can create accents qnd explore all sorts of imaginative play.
I may have lived too long if this world is now going to demand that everyone has to sound a certain way because of where they were born.
I was being sarcastic, but glad that it’s led to you being in agreement with me.
8ball
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8ball
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There kind of is a white accent. America is peculiar in this regard. There are also some small phonemic (is that the right word?) differences between men and women iirc, which is also uncommon.
I am not agreeing with you..
You're taking a puppet show and calling it racist bacause an.actor acted an accent that was not the one they grew up with.
Where did I call it racist? Your sarcasm detector is on the blink. I was poking fun at the cultural appropriation brigade.
Actually... Magnus McGinty
Your sarcasm just wasn't clear to me.
I'm off to watch a Muppets Christmas Carol ..
Your sarcasm just wasn't clear to me.
I'm off to watch a Muppets Christmas Carol ..
Is there? I drink with a French Moroccan guy who sounds neither French or Moroccan and his accent sounds more traditionally English than mine.
8ball
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I suppose one thing where Magnus might have a point is that race in Sesame
Street didn’t seem to have any relevance when I was watching it growing up.
You had characters with unfamiliar names sometimes and some different celebrations and foods, and you leaned to count in Spanish which puzzled us a little in rural Wales, but everyone was just portrayed as “regular people”. Difference was never highlighted as such. You could have a cookie-related eating disorder, be a chronically-depressed mammoth, didn’t matter, acceptance and belonging was there for everyone.
While I remember sometimes characters did dispute the existence of the mammoth. I don’t think this was a case of mental illness erasure.
If they are keeping with this tradition there is obv no problem.
Street didn’t seem to have any relevance when I was watching it growing up.
You had characters with unfamiliar names sometimes and some different celebrations and foods, and you leaned to count in Spanish which puzzled us a little in rural Wales, but everyone was just portrayed as “regular people”. Difference was never highlighted as such. You could have a cookie-related eating disorder, be a chronically-depressed mammoth, didn’t matter, acceptance and belonging was there for everyone.
While I remember sometimes characters did dispute the existence of the mammoth. I don’t think this was a case of mental illness erasure.
If they are keeping with this tradition there is obv no problem.
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8ball
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I mean in America, reading back, I’m not sure where that was unclear in my post.
Yossarian
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So there's no confusion - Muppets are the puppet characters Jim Henson created in the 1950s that appeared on Sesame Street, the Muppet Show was a show created years after Sesame Street that was discontinued in 1981, muppets are the alt-right spokespeople losing their minds about stuff like Sesame Street and Dr. Seuss because they don't have anything else to offer their followers but death by COVID.
petee
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krtek a houby
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Just to clarify: this is sarcasm, too, right?
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I think it's fucked up that they put the Count in Sesame Street. I am now terrified of people with central/east European accents because I think they're vampires as a result of watching it as a kid.This thread is ruining my Muppets Christmas Carol experience
And btw..I loved the Swedish chef ...
And Count Dracula in Sesame Street
And all the characters.
Not sure about this, but I think the Muppets may have appeared in one or two things that have been made since 1981.
Sorry the Count had such an effect on you
Darby O Gill' king of the leprachauns was my most feared character on telly. For some reason that film was on way too often.
Fair point, I was talking about The Muppet Show rather than any of the subsequent films etc.
Krtek was trying to employ a gotcha (the Swedish Chef). I don't particularly agree with that character tbh in hindsight. I don't think the Swedes found it particularly amusing according to his wiki page.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
No, that was just me making a daft joke - I did consider adding a disclaimer saying that it was just me making a silly joke, perhaps I should've done in retrospect.Sorry the Count had such an effect on you
8ball
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Maybe they should have called him the Swiss chef for the Swedish version.
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