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Starry Wisdom
It stands to reason that the number is a multiple of the other number, fractional or otherwise
TfL "cull of buses" consultation
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ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
I yield to no one in my hatred of Thatcher, but there's no evidence that she ever said that, & if she did, she was quoting.
Did Margaret Thatcher say bus users over the age of 25 were failures? - Full Fact
The quote appears to have been coined by a poet. It has since been attributed to Mrs Thatcher, but we don’t know whether she ever quoted it.
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Reading this and it's no surprise that TFL is having to cut services.
Boris as Mayor along with Osborne the chancellor decided to phase out central government funding of TFL for day to day running of the service. So it's highly reliant on revenue from fares. (Unlike other major cities across the world.)
London is one of the few major world cities that don't get central government funding
Secondly this Government hasnt given all transport the same pandemic help. Other transport companies have had much more financial assistance.
So these bus route cuts come out of this. Going back to Boris as Mayor and now this government.
Its about undermining TFL.
The recommendation of the article is to give TFL 18 month deal , similar to that given to other rail companies, with no strings attached ( so no cuts to bus services)
Longer term to look at re in stating the Government grant it used to get.
Boris as Mayor along with Osborne the chancellor decided to phase out central government funding of TFL for day to day running of the service. So it's highly reliant on revenue from fares. (Unlike other major cities across the world.)
London is one of the few major world cities that don't get central government funding
Secondly this Government hasnt given all transport the same pandemic help. Other transport companies have had much more financial assistance.
So these bus route cuts come out of this. Going back to Boris as Mayor and now this government.
Its about undermining TFL.
The recommendation of the article is to give TFL 18 month deal , similar to that given to other rail companies, with no strings attached ( so no cuts to bus services)
Longer term to look at re in stating the Government grant it used to get.
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pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
I bet she THOUGHT it thoughI yield to no one in my hatred of Thatcher, but there's no evidence that she ever said that, & if she did, she was quoting.
Did Margaret Thatcher say bus users over the age of 25 were failures? - Full Fact
The quote appears to have been coined by a poet. It has since been attributed to Mrs Thatcher, but we don’t know whether she ever quoted it.
T & P
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If money is so tight why don’t they shorten the routes in question rather than dropping them altogether? The only one I’m familiar with goes by Fulham Broadway. Which is very well served by both buses and the Tube. So if the far end of the bus route serves a poorly served area, shorten the route to the nearest hub using small buses. You still save money and offer public transport to those at the head of the route.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
The 205 is also up for elimination, which is insanity. It's a really heavily-used bus route and we need more of them, not less. And yes, it's slow, but getting rid of it would make the remaining buses even slower as more people have to alight and board those buses. Then you'd be more likely to have to wait just to get on a bus, and far less likely to get a seat or be able to take a pushchair on them. Really incredibly stupid idea.
I did fill in the consultation form, not that it's likely to mean anything.
Buses are cheaper, and more accessible for people in wheelchairs or who just can't use stairs, and they don't usually cover the exact same routes as the tube anyway.
I did fill in the consultation form, not that it's likely to mean anything.
Buses are cheaper, and more accessible for people in wheelchairs or who just can't use stairs, and they don't usually cover the exact same routes as the tube anyway.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Meanwhile in Spain, their government is funding free trains to curb inflation and alleviate rising living expenses.
www.weforum.org
Spain is providing free monthly rail passes to try and tackle inflation
Spain is trying to reduce people’s living expenses at a time of high inflation by providing free rail passes, saving some families more than €80 a month.
www.weforum.org
Communism RIGHT THERE. Mark my words, it'll be all free love and holding the country to ransom next. Slippery slope.Meanwhile in Spain, their government is funding free trains to curb inflation and alleviate rising living expenses.
Spain is providing free monthly rail passes to try and tackle inflation
Spain is trying to reduce people’s living expenses at a time of high inflation by providing free rail passes, saving some families more than €80 a month.
They've done that already for a load of buses round here (Hackney). For example, the 242 used to run from central London to Homerton Hospital. Then they cut the route so it was St Paul's (I think?) to Homerton, now it's Aldgate to Homerton Hospital. Now they want to cut it completely. It's a pretty well-used bus and the fact it serves a hospital in an area that relies heavily on public transport (low car ownership) would seem like reason enough to keep it but...
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Report published
Summary:
Relevant to Brixton area...
59 gets cut back to St Pauls and will no longer go as far as Euston
45 doesn't get cut and will continue to run
133 cut back to Holborn and will no longer go as far as Liverpool St
Looks like N133 is unaltered though.
Summary:
Relevant to Brixton area...
59 gets cut back to St Pauls and will no longer go as far as Euston
45 doesn't get cut and will continue to run
133 cut back to Holborn and will no longer go as far as Liverpool St
Looks like N133 is unaltered though.
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Dr. Furface
One small step for me
This is a much better result than I'd expected. The one I'm most pleased about that was proposed to be cut is the 31 which goes from Camden to White City. I don't use it very often but getting from Finchley Road though Kilburn, Westbourne Park to Notting Hill Gate would be a nightmare without it.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
If I were a wheel chair user I might be upset about losing a convenient accessible route between Brixton Hill and the Oval area to Euston (59). Seems a bit retrograde to me.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not been that route in nearly 30 years but I'll have to give it a go again
