I’ll tell ya what, if a 6yo is in a PRU it’s not cos he shouted that out in class.
Terrorist attacks and beheadings in France
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The parents of adolescents? Are you kidding?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Read my post properly. I stated quite clearly, twice, it was one incident of many. But he did get excluded for a day for that. He got excluded permanently for a host of things.
In my local PRU for juniors, there are 40 pupils. And they have a waiting list. And I live in an under-populated rural area. Kids get excluded a lot easier than you seem to have any knowledge of.
You really are a patronising dick
It’s not “middle class” to teach your kids basic manners.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It doesn't matter whether they were given the choice or not (although the language used by Ricard "contested firmly" seems unequivocal). The fact that the teacher felt it necessary to offer/suggest the division to the kids is what several posters, some teachers among them, believe was inappropriate.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
You really are a patronising dick
...depends what those "basic manners" are. But I think that might be a derail too far!
JimW
支那暗杀团
Reads like a clunky translation, I think it's supposed to mean that the teacher firmly denied he'd done any such thing but contested in English is ambiguous, as in might mean "he was firmly making the case" that's what he did.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think you may have misread the article.
Athos
Well-Known Member
See my edit. I think it means he denied doing that.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
You really are a patronising dick
Try reading posts before you jump in with your own patronising language. I thought you were here to learn. Your words.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Given that snails are haram, should the French not consider removing them from restaurant menus, lest someone gets offended and a chef gets beheaded?
stethoscope
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I've read it five times and I read it as he 'contested' (as in argued to be unfair) the suggestion that he had 'identified them' and 'asked them to leave'.
Exactly. I don't understand how anyone could read it otherwise.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think you both know how.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes, that could be interpreted either way, in fairness. However the point still stands doesn't it? He told muslims they were free to leave if they would be upset. That's unnessecarily divisive. Why do that when you don't need to show the cartoons at all?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Bastard
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
...and poor kids too. Imagine being in that class now.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You need to row it in spy.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I thought I told you to shut up.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
He gave the kids the choice to leave if they didn't want to see the images, not 'singled out' as far as we can tell, and that's 'unnecessarily divisive'? The what now?!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ain't life a bitch
I’m not necessarily he did wrong but you must understand that those kids hardly had free choice.
Yes, devastating.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes, that does change things. I'll need to rethink that part. It weakens that bit of the argument but I'm not sure it nullifies it.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I think that this is problematic tbh. I can't imagine doing this in a class. It would put the kids in a pretty awkward position. But, I dunno, I wasn't there, and I'm not familiar with the norms of French classrooms
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
No I get that (and also to Edie). Reflecting a bit on that I can see why it is problematic. I'm also guilty of not really giving this the attention it deserves whilst doing something else apologies. I don't know, just very complex and sad all round.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
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