Athos
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I'm sure you can work it out with a bit if thought.
Terrorist attack NZ, 50 dead, many injured
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I'm sure you can work it out with a bit if thought.
Tell me.
Athos
Well-Known Member
No.
You didn't really have one did you petal.
Athos
Well-Known Member
If you like, sweetheart.
Pest control people often have guns.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And some posters here have a sense of humour.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
I'm pleased to hear this (but fwiw, there is a bit in this about 'bogan' still being a culturally acceptable, classist slur, similar to 'chav', too. Would have to defer to ice-is-forming treefrog Balbi Poi E - it's a long time since I was there).
Yes. Bless those kids, with their anger and their sadness and their fucking outrage and their despair - and their expression of all of that. Very moving. I hope they feel heard.
This was reported on R4 this morning and they said "Jacinda Ardern has vowed never to speak the name of terrorist [insert name]"
I heard this on the radio this morning and was torn - I did appreciate the sentiment but I do also wonder how that works, legally.
Hasn't there always got to be lessons learned in how else these things are dealt with, though?
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hiraethified
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Learned yesterday one of my students has lost her grandfather and uncle in the attack. She's fine for the minute, but her poor father was in bits.
This site getting some flak for posting The land of the long white stain, highlighting the history of white supremacism in Aotearoa through to the modern day neo-nazis - including this bunch of charmers.
Part of this is because there's two strains of 'argument' going on which are trying to minimise fallout
1) He was Australian, so it's not something that exists here - being propagated by many of those who were against the UN Migration Compact and the main opposition party's resident junkyard dog Judith Collins.
2) He was a mad loner so little could be done about it - being put about by those freedom of speech purists who went up to bat for Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneaux (who emphasise the birth rates replacement white supremacism in their dreadful speeches) when they got banned from using Auckland council venues to host their speaking tour, couldn't find a private venue that would host them and then refused to speak for free (lol lol lol)
Some huge arse covering going on too. National Party deleted a petition, said first it was deleted aggggess ago and then yesterday blamed it on a junior staffer. News websites taking down anti-islam stuff they've spewed over the last few years.
This site getting some flak for posting The land of the long white stain, highlighting the history of white supremacism in Aotearoa through to the modern day neo-nazis - including this bunch of charmers.
Part of this is because there's two strains of 'argument' going on which are trying to minimise fallout
1) He was Australian, so it's not something that exists here - being propagated by many of those who were against the UN Migration Compact and the main opposition party's resident junkyard dog Judith Collins.
2) He was a mad loner so little could be done about it - being put about by those freedom of speech purists who went up to bat for Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneaux (who emphasise the birth rates replacement white supremacism in their dreadful speeches) when they got banned from using Auckland council venues to host their speaking tour, couldn't find a private venue that would host them and then refused to speak for free (lol lol lol)
Some huge arse covering going on too. National Party deleted a petition, said first it was deleted aggggess ago and then yesterday blamed it on a junior staffer. News websites taking down anti-islam stuff they've spewed over the last few years.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
So do I! I think it's insignificant in terms of what he did, what happened afterwards and what he said about it later.
I KNOW the meaning - and my point wasn't about him.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Got a lot of mates who are proud bogans tbh
But he means it in terms of the meathead right wing boot boys, so yeah - he means it as an insult.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
You are absolutely right. Obviously not the major issue here but yes the way the term is used by a lot of people in Australia (and I presume NZ but don't have personal experience there) is nasty classists stuff.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
On TVNZ one night I saw a whole evening of classic rock videos introduced as "a tribute to the V8 powered people known as Bogans". But I don't think this was intended in an entirely complimentary sense.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
NZ biker and street gangs offer to stand guard at mosques for Friday prayers.
Mongrel Mob and Black Power gangs vow to support Muslim community, protect mosques - 'We need to come together'
In UK: Support at mosque 'shows friendship'
Man stands guard at Exeter mosque protecting Muslims as they pray
Mongrel Mob and Black Power gangs vow to support Muslim community, protect mosques - 'We need to come together'
In UK: Support at mosque 'shows friendship'
Man stands guard at Exeter mosque protecting Muslims as they pray
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
So mosques to be protected by extortionists, murderers, and drug traffickers? I'm not sure if that's the way forward. Socially, are they any better than right wing fucknuts?
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extra dry
Happy to be here
Allah have a 9 barr. And all that black leather and noisy hogs? Would anyone feel safe?
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hiraethified
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
The free school meal programmes that some of the Mongrel Mob and other gangs run for local kids would imply, yes. As well as those attempting to get their chapters drug free - and campaigning against child abuse and domestic violence.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yeah, I read that earlier. Does this mean that they've completely turned away from the murder, gun running, and extortion they've been into since the 60s or is this a good bit of PR from elements of one or two chapters? Either way, is allowing outfits like MM involvement in social protection a good idea? As you know, they've been involved in some horrific shit over the years. This is akin to the Krays saying they'd turned over a new leaf and now want to be nice to people.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Cool. Let's see how it goes. Only last year they were getting arrested for being New Zealand's primary methamphetamine suppliers and having gunfights in the street. Now they want to protect muslims. Good on 'em
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