Rushy
basically a scrotum
It's certainly not the prettiest plot in Brixton at the moment.
Tell me about BrixtonGreen - a "community led development" on Somerleyton Road
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It's certainly not the prettiest plot in Brixton at the moment.
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hiraethified
In my dreams they would have extended the green space over the old Texaco garage to form a nice continuous park. Much as I love the look of the Barrier Block, I'd agree it wouldn't hurt to 'soften' its impact.
Laughing Toad
Turn the volume down please.
This is London is reporting that the new Tulse Hill Academy, sponsored by E-ACT, will open next year from a temporary site Somerleyton Road.
Crispy
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It's where I got my diploma, baby
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Nice that the residents knew nothing of this. It was a temp site for Evelyn Grace and I don't have a problem with temporary school siting there, it's just that various planning notices tagged on lamp posts don't mention anything about schools at all.
It's been talked of in various council missives and committee meetings, I think.
It makes no sense to me. As a temporary school for EGA it made sense because the permanent school was close by. This will be a temporary building for a school beyond the catchment of EGA, so the first year of potential applicants from it's permanent location will not be attracted to apply. The first year's cohort will be made up of peope who put the school last choice and may have little engagement, or relationship with the locality. Who knows what the effect on 'postcode wars' may be. Space isn't just space.
It makes no sense to me. As a temporary school for EGA it made sense because the permanent school was close by. This will be a temporary building for a school beyond the catchment of EGA, so the first year of potential applicants from it's permanent location will not be attracted to apply. The first year's cohort will be made up of peope who put the school last choice and may have little engagement, or relationship with the locality. Who knows what the effect on 'postcode wars' may be. Space isn't just space.
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Vibrant-Hubb
Active Member
Decanting estate residents to new builds is a way of forcing them to relinquish their secure tenancies, and for some, protected rents.
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hiraethified
Indeed. Witness what happened to the Guinness Trust redevelopment around the corner.
http://www.urban75.org/blog/guinness-trust-estate-campaign-continues-in-brixton-video/
I tried to give BG the benefit of the doubt and do some investigating after concerns were raised here and in other places last year. But I got a mildly agressive response in person from one of the organisers at a community event. Sadly that fixed my mind on their trustworthyness and I've seen nothing to change it since.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
The way Lambeth Council go on if they can't engineer a block of luxury flats on that site, they'll probably "Windrush it". After all trees and greenery encourage undesirable behaviour n'est ce pas? Remember how Heather Rabbatts claimed the tree planters and fountain in Brixton Oval encouraged gropers and muggers and drinkers?
Look how Brixton Oval has decayed from Edwardian splendour, through 60s utilitarianism to the Stalinist co-operative adjunct to a yuppy bar what we got now!
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hiraethified
Has brad vanished again?
Brixton Green say that their project is 'community led', yet whenever some elements of the aforementioned community asks him an important and hugely relevent question related to his plans, he seems to go walkabout every time.
It's *deeply* frustrating and only adds to the feeling that he's not being honest or straightforward about Brixton Green's plans.
This thread has already been read over 9,200 times so it's already the highest profiled public discussion about Brixton Green's plans. I'll certainly be showing it to my Resident;s Association, so it would be really useful to have brad answer the questions put to him.
Brixton Green say that their project is 'community led', yet whenever some elements of the aforementioned community asks him an important and hugely relevent question related to his plans, he seems to go walkabout every time.
It's *deeply* frustrating and only adds to the feeling that he's not being honest or straightforward about Brixton Green's plans.
This thread has already been read over 9,200 times so it's already the highest profiled public discussion about Brixton Green's plans. I'll certainly be showing it to my Resident;s Association, so it would be really useful to have brad answer the questions put to him.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Of course, he's unlikely to give an answer "in print" beyond the vapid maundering he's already come out with. That'd leave a record, and then he he could be held to his "Promises". Much better to schmooze people and give individual reassurances along with a handshake and a smile. That gives a degree of "plausible deniability" if you renege on anything.
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hiraethified
That's rather a shame. We have a Residents Association meeting tonight and it would have been very helpful if I'd been able to give a clear picture to residents about how BG's proposals may affect us.
As it is, I can only report on my frustration trying to get a clear, unequivocal answer on the matter.
As it is, I can only report on my frustration trying to get a clear, unequivocal answer on the matter.
Crispy
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You should invite Brad to it.
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hiraethified
I intend to, but it's far better to have meetings when everyone is fully conversant with the facts beforehand, especially over such hugely important issues.
If we can't get a clear answer on even their basic plans, it doesn't bode too well for a productive meeting.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Ha. I saw him 'schmoozing' two official-looking people outside town hall only yesterday!
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
He didn't do a good job on schmoozing memespring who is one of the gentlest politest men in Brixton. Maybe it's because memespring asked him a question. Brad doesn't respond at all well to being asked questions.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Perhaps talking to Brad is like seducing a beautiful woman - you start off with eye contact, a smile, some general chit-chat, and then you get down to the nitty-gritty?
BTW, Mrs. M, as you don't "do" TV, that's Swiss Toni, north London Lothario and used-car salesman, who always starts sentences with a comparison of whatever he's doing (selling a car, buying a packet of fags) to seducing a beautiful woman.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Swiss Tony is enough part of the cultural landscape for me to get the reference
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hiraethified
A year later and I'm still none the wiser to Brixton Green's long term plans.
I've met them a few times and it seems really hard to get straight answers to straight questions.
At the last meeting of the Future Brixton consultation about Somerleyton Road they seemed to be manoeuvring themselves into some commercial, long term 'stewardship' role for whatever gets built there. But how does such an operation fit in with their 'Brixton People Know What Brixton Want' stuff?
What several people have told me is that anyone criticising Brixton Green is immediately reminded that they have a 1,000 members - except as far as I know those people aren't regularly consulted or canvassed for their opinions. In fact, I know a couple of people who have membership who had almost forgotten about it.
But it seems that BG just assume that anyone signed up for their consultation process people can automatically be assumed to fully support anything they suggest, even when those plans seem to be in a permanent state of flux.
I've got other unresolved questions too.
I've met them a few times and it seems really hard to get straight answers to straight questions.
At the last meeting of the Future Brixton consultation about Somerleyton Road they seemed to be manoeuvring themselves into some commercial, long term 'stewardship' role for whatever gets built there. But how does such an operation fit in with their 'Brixton People Know What Brixton Want' stuff?
What several people have told me is that anyone criticising Brixton Green is immediately reminded that they have a 1,000 members - except as far as I know those people aren't regularly consulted or canvassed for their opinions. In fact, I know a couple of people who have membership who had almost forgotten about it.
But it seems that BG just assume that anyone signed up for their consultation process people can automatically be assumed to fully support anything they suggest, even when those plans seem to be in a permanent state of flux.
I've got other unresolved questions too.
- If BG do end up with a commercial contract as developers or 'stewards' will their shareholders be paid a share of the income?
- Will the overall community also gain financially from BG's contracts?
- What happens to these £1s they've been collecting?
- Are any of the BG staff paying themselves, and if that is the case, where is the money coming from?
- And how much are they paying themselves?
snowy_again
Slush
Valid points. It also riles me that membership suddenly becomes unfailing support, when it actually might just be interest and looking for a bit of transparency. Lots of your bulleted points are covered in their legal constitution.
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hiraethified
I suspect that a lot of people have never heard of it, let alone seen it, or are able to make sense of it.
Oh look, the chef's school and the all-important hair salon is right back on the agenda. Or at least it is in this plan marked up on their home page.
Tricky Skills
Well-Known Member
I read the: Base for Lambeth Local Labour... and my heart missed a beat. Could do with a better description.
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hiraethified
What is it?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
It suddenly appeared at the last consultation event I went to about the Somerleyton road project.
I made it clear I did not support it.
This smacks of sucking up to the Labour Council by BG.
Instead I said affordable meeting place / resource centre for local groups. And local political groups of all persuasions.
Well perhaps not UKIP.
. Though I reckon they would be as welcome in Brixton as they are in Scotland.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I object to the headline "Community Priorities". Its BG priorities. Headline should read "Somerleyton Road Brixton Green priorities".
I am member of community ( Carlton Mansions for the moment. Have to see what happens on Wednesday in court).
As for Carlton Mansions. (building on top left hand corner) It has arrows for Ovalhouse, Chefs School and space for small business start ups.
To clarify:
The use/ alteration to building is /was still being consulted on.
I do not want "Chefs school".
I want to see some of it kept as residential (affordable).
I want lower floors to be used as affordable artists studios and creative industries.
Both the above will be in keeping with its historical use.
Also in keeping with the Brixton Masterplan. As Brixton Masterplan says this end of Brixton did have thriving artistic/ alternative scene. (Cooltan etc . Many artists lived this end of Brixton).
For some reason "community priorities" does not include restoring and keeping the mural on the side of Carlton Mansions. Do not understand why it keeps being left off after people have said they want it kept.
Also if you look at the map there is no space for a small square in front of the mural. The theatre buts straight up against Carlton Mansions. If this was done it would cover the mural. Some explanation of this is required. Is it mistake on drawing?
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