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Tell me about BrixtonGreen - a "community led development" on Somerleyton Road

miss minnie said:
Surely there is more to Brixton Green than just *brad* though? He is what, the chairperson? Not sure what their rules are but in fair dinkum co-ops, management committees are elected every year. Can brad be voted out?
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Ah, answers in the rules (pdf), presumably brad is appointed as a staff member by the board of trustees (of which his business partner is one).

Further information about Community Land Trusts at the CLT website.
 
editor said:
Observe, if you will, the trees, grass and flowers behind which are, apparently, "discouraging activity which reduces economic activity and community safety and so discourages access."
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That refers to the land adjacent to the railway, not the grass on the corner of coldharbour lane.
 
Crispy said:
That refers to the land adjacent to the railway, not the grass on the corner of coldharbour lane.
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Are you absolutely sure about that? His earlier comments were rather vague when he described Southwyck House as being one of the things that supposedly had "the effect of discouraging access to this part of Coldharbour Lane and the Somerleyton triangle," and suggested that putting in "economic activity" would be a good thing.

Sadly, he didn't seem inclined to elaborate further when asked directly on this matter so it's not surprising there's confusion.
 
And Crispy: this is where you appeared to be agreeing with brad's notion that it would be best to get rid of the grass and replace it with economic activity:
Crispy said:
Absolutely. That bit of CHL is horribly bleak and that strip of grass never gets used for anything. Streets with actual frontages onto them are much better.
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You're quite wrong about that 'strip of grass' too. It's actually a lovely little park supporting a lot of wildlife. I doubt if any of the residents want to see it go.
 
Crispy said:
That refers to the land adjacent to the railway, not the grass on the corner of coldharbour lane.
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Which brad says has been out of use for 30 years which is just not true. I did think the old Community Industry building was out of use but I was wrong (it's hard to tell as you can't see through the windows). It's got light industry or stuff like Community transport & Meals on Wheels all the way along. I am beginning to wonder if they did their reccy at 4am.
 
You're free to add your pennorth, but you don't actually live in Brixton, and as far as I know haven't lived closer to here than the Brixton Road, so unless you are out and about day in day out during various times of the day I'm afraid you don't really know enough to say what somewhere is like.
 
For the record, no matter what plans Brixton Green have for the area - and some of them I may well end up supporting - any attempt to piss about with that lovely piece of green space will be met with the firmest resistance from me and, I imagine, many of the residents.

With so many empty shops, vacant lots and undeveloped sites close by, there is nothing to justify taking away this precious stretch of greenery.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
Alfie Howard told me there were riots on Rush Common in the 1920s when developers tried to build on that.

...for those of you who don't know about Alfie.
www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2003/nov/23/magazine.features7
www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/160014-Alfie-Howard-has-died-aged-93
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This quote is ace!

When I was young there was always fighting. Crowds used to gather outside pubs on a Sunday lunch time and two men used to fight bare fisted. You had to fight, otherwise you didn't exist.
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editor said:
And Crispy: this is where you appeared to be agreeing with brad's notion that it would be best to get rid of the grass and replace it with economic activity:You're quite wrong about that 'strip of grass' too. It's actually a lovely little park supporting a lot of wildlife. I doubt if any of the residents want to see it go.
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But isn't it just a a sticking plaster on what was, more broadly a huge planning mistake. Surely there is a problem on Somerstown Road. To deny it is just silly.
 
toblerone3 said:
But isn't it just a a sticking plaster on what was, more broadly a huge planning mistake. Surely there is a problem on Somerstown Road. To deny it is just silly.
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Do you actually know the area? Have you ever been there? You can't even get the name right, FFS.

There is nothing 'wrong' with the green park in front of the block but feel free to elaborate on its supposed failings.
 
toblerone3 said:
Yes I've been there about one hundred times.
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Yet you can't even gets its name right. It's Somerleyton Road.

:facepalm:

But feel free to enlighten me as why you think we'd all be better off if the green park outside the block was dug up and replaced by shops please.
 
editor said:
But feel free to enlighten me as why you think we'd all be better off if the green park outside the block was dug up and replaced by shops please.
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Sorry Editor I don't remember saying that. Are you trying to put words in my mouth. Where did I say that?
 
I keep meaning to ask - does the council own the recently(ish) re-fenced plot on Coldharbour in front of Southwyck House and opposite the Gresham Cafe? What is it used for and why the prison-like fencing? There never appears to be anything much going on in there.
 
toblerone3 said:
Sorry Editor I don't remember saying that. Are you trying to put words in my mouth. Where did I say that?
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So exactly what are you saying? What is the problem with the green area outside the Barrier Block (that is the post you commented on while insisting that there was a 'problem' on the road).
 
Rushy said:
I keep meaning to ask - does the council own the recently(ish) re-fenced plot on Coldharbour in front of Southwyck House and opposite the Gresham Cafe? What is it used for and why the prison-like fencing? There never appears to be anything much going on in there.
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It's a very long story! Here's how I understand things happened:

For a while no one could work out who actually owned the land, but then it was bought up while the new owners submitted various planning applications.

While these were busy being rejected, they were happy to let the site remain as wasteland so it quickly descended into an ad hoc parking site/drug dealing spot/party hangout/stolen car hideout.

The council stepped in a while ago to make the new owners clear up the shitty mess they'd left the place in, and secure the area (hence the fencing). While it was empty, entrepreneurial locals broke open the lock and started up their own car parking business, so eventually hefty concrete slabs were placed to stop the doors being forced.

The new owners are now building what should be a car wash business. Looks like they're making a decent job of it so far, although I can't say I'll be delighted by the view.
 
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