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Tell me about BrixtonGreen - a "community led development" on Somerleyton Road

So what exactly is the Milestone funding for?
Is it to pay for Brixton Green being a development partner?
The report wording seems to suggest this is a scheme whereby the community can force a Community Right To Build order through and then bypass the planning system.

This is not what was outlined at the BG AGM - it was clearly stated there that this would be done through planning.

Also any idea who is paying for these reports from Social Life etc - or is that likely to be paid now from the milestone money? This is the sort of thing that could have been explained at the AGM - but it was more about getting the candidate trustees to give presentations on their experience etc.

How does this community orientation fit with the aspiring local trustee, who may or may not have been elected and who says he is currently Atkins director of architecture, London, and had worked on the Olympic games temporary buildings provision, and in the past with Lend Lease on the Heygate Estate scheme.
 
I've spoken to a few people who said they've had no updates - and, of course not everyone has email. When was the last update you received and did it mention their current/changing plans?
It was a week ago - an invite to the AGM received on 10th June.
Unfortunately I can't track back before that as the Windows partition on my PC crashed and I lost all my emails going back to 2003. Teach me not to switch to webmail won't it!
 
I've spoken to a few people who said they've had no updates - and, of course not everyone has email. When was the last update you received and did it mention their current/changing plans?

4 emails received since 2 May.

Last one linked to report on development workshops:
The Report & Elections
AGM & online votingIf you are unable to make the AGM this Saturday please make sure you vote online.


Deadline for online voting 8am Saturday morning.


Annual General Meeting
This Saturday (10.30am)
Hillmead Primary School,
Moorlands Road,
SW9 8UE
The Report is Ready!

Brixton Green commissioned Social Life to run a series of 11 action planning workshops this spring. The aim was to enable a group of local people to come together, work through the details, and develop detailed and realistic plans for the site.

Seventy-nine local people took part with guest speakers including Ed Mayo from Cooperatives UK; Liz Cox from nef; Iain Tuckett from Coin Street Community Builders; Kelly Thomas and Mei Hui from OLMEC; Colin Crooks from Tree Shepherd; and Chris Bailey from Westway Development Trust.

Please click here to download the report.


 

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I cant find anything on the BG website about the funding.
There isn't anything is there? If I hadn't grabbed the accounts, you wouldn't have have found that report at the Mayor's office either. Not as bad as a Liechtenstein anstalt, but hardly open and transparent.
Back in the early 1980s there was a fashion for operating on a "need to know" basis. Very nostalgic.
 
I shudder to think of all the thousands of hours of talk, all the millions of documents, and, soon, the large fees that will go into this project.

And then there's the jargon and the byzantine bureaucracy: patrons! trustees!! advisors!!! professionals!!!! staff!!!!!.

Why does everything have to be so complicated - and costly?

It's just some homes and a theatre.
 
There isn't anything is there? If I hadn't grabbed the accounts, you wouldn't have have found that report at the Mayor's office either. Not as bad as a Liechtenstein anstalt, but hardly open and transparent.
Back in the early 1980s there was a fashion for operating on a "need to know" basis. Very nostalgic.

No I would not have found the report without your info.

Cannot see why getting that funding was not on the website. Its not like there is anything wrong with the funding.
 
So what exactly is the Milestone funding for?
Is it to pay for Brixton Green being a development partner?
The report wording seems to suggest this is a scheme whereby the community can force a Community Right To Build order through and then bypass the planning system.

This is not what was outlined at the BG AGM - it was clearly stated there that this would be done through planning.

Also any idea who is paying for these reports from Social Life etc - or is that likely to be paid now from the milestone money? This is the sort of thing that could have been explained at the AGM - but it was more about getting the candidate trustees to give presentations on their experience etc.

As far as I know Social Life were working for free as its such an exciting project.

The GLA must have been satisfied that the funding was spent appropriately. The "milestones" are like hurdles to get over before the next stage. The end result is a local referendum on the scheme.

I think the idea is that BG put in a bid for "right to build" at end of the "milestones" . But they would have to get it past a local referendum. Which is a big hurdle. Not sure how that is supposed to work.

It would bypass the traditional planning system. Its all part of the Tories "localism" agenda. There is a whole debate to to be had about that.

I am not clear if BG will go ahead with this as now the Council have taken the lead role in the scheme. I certainly do not remember it coming up at any of the meetings about the site I went to.

Probably why the funding was given in stages. So that if the scheme does not go ahead not to much money is given out in grants.
 
As far as I know Social Life were working for free as its such an exciting project.
The GLA must have been satisfied that the funding was spent appropriately. The "milestones" are like hurdles to get over before the next stage. The end result is a local referendum on the scheme.
I think the idea is that BG put in a bid for "right to build" at end of the "milestones" . But they would have to get it past a local referendum. Which is a big hurdle. Not sure how that is supposed to work.
It would bypass the traditional planning system. Its all part of the Tories "localism" agenda. There is a whole debate to to be had about that.
I am not clear if BG will go ahead with this as now the Council have taken the lead role in the scheme. I certainly do not remember it coming up at any of the meetings about the site I went to.
Probably why the funding was given in stages. So that if the scheme does not go ahead not to much money is given out in grants.

So is the Social Life report the "feasibility study" facilitating the release of the the money for Milestone 2?

Para 2.5 of the GLA report says this:
2.5 "Achievement of milestone 2 has been evidenced through submission of details of the expertise, and pro-bono work that has already been undertaken on behalf of the project. This includes the
approach to design, to creating apprenticeships, securing the land for the development and
feasibility. These costs have been assessed as eligible under the community right to build funding."

Para 2.6 then refers to milestone 3:
2.6 "Brixton Green are currently engaging with the local community and local businesses with a view to developing detailed proposals through a series of workshops taking place in March and April 2013.
They are working towards the achievement of milestone 3 by September 2013 and submitting a
community right to build order soon afterwards."

No amount is given for milestone 3 that I can see, however in paragraph 4.3 is is stated:
4.3 "Paragaphs 1 and 2 above indicate that the contribution of £49K to Brixton Green Limited amounts to the provision of grant funding and not payment for works/supplies/services."

The £49,000 is a grant, not reimbursement for work, materials and services. It's like output related funding paid when A4E get a "jobseeker" into a placement it seems.

If the project is going through normal planning procedures, how will they claim Milestone 3? Nothing was said about a Community Right to Build order or a local referendum at the AGM as far as I recall.
 
If the project is going through normal planning procedures, how will they claim Milestone 3? Nothing was said about a Community Right to Build order or a local referendum at the AGM as far as I recall.

I assumed they were not going to go ahead with it as its Council led project. But I am confused now as looked at their twitter and found this recent article which suggests otherwise.

So really not sure what is going on.

I did not know about Community Right to Build. I knew about Neighbourhood plan. Which is for a whole area. Community Right to Build is similar but for specific sites.
 
I assumed they were not going to go ahead with it as its Council led project. But I am confused now as looked at their twitter and found this recent article which suggests otherwise.

So really not sure what is going on.

I did not know about Community Right to Build. I knew about Neighbourhood plan. Which is for a whole area. Community Right to Build is similar but for specific sites.
Is it mentioned in any of their original blurb? Or is just something new they've picked up on?
 
I assumed they were not going to go ahead with it as its Council led project. But I am confused now as looked at their twitter and found this recent article which suggests otherwise.
I did not know about Community Right to Build. I knew about Neighbourhood plan. Which is for a whole area. Community Right to Build is similar but for specific sites.
Interesting snippet in the article. Didn't realise Brixton Green was set up in 2007 though. Though it was much more recent.

I was thinking about this earlier. Maybe they ARE planning to use this Community Right to Build order.
"Feb 2014 - August 2014 Secretary of State to give approval" in the proposed sequence of events could be that. Grant Shapps came to the Moorlands last year didn't he - what was that all about?
If BG adhere to their timetable, the local referendum could be conducted as part of the 2014 council election. The timing would fit very well.
Not sure why they would then devote 6 months to a "pre planning process" and a planning application - though it would be a bit of a test-case as there seems to be only one other such proposal in the UK at present - a small-scale one in Hulcote and Salford Parish council area Bedfordshire (MP Nadine Dories).

Planning Resource article from February 2013: Only four bids for Community Right to Build fund
 
Re Grant Shapps visit, BG have a photo on their website here
The flamboyant Shapps (now ex-Housing Minister of course) makes any controversy about Brixton Green seem mundane, as his Wikipedia entry shows: Grant Shapps - Wikipedia
From Twitter:
Jonn Elledge
@jonnelledge
Grant Shapps is basically a Foxtons estate agent who's somehow escaped into the wild.
 
Re Grant Shapps visit, BG have a photo on their website here
The flamboyant Shapps (now ex-Housing Minister of course) makes any controversy about Brixton Green seem mundane, as his Wikipedia entry shows: Grant Shapps - Wikipedia
From Twitter:
Jonn Elledge
@jonnelledge
Grant Shapps is basically a Foxtons estate agent who's somehow escaped into the wild.

Let's not forget Shapps is a cousin of Mick Jones who went to school at the end of this road.
 
Is it mentioned in any of their original blurb? Or is just something new they've picked up on?

Its new. Its part of the this governments "localism agenda".

Still cannot find anything on the BG website about it.

CH1 post 402 could be possible scenario. I wonder what the Labour Groups view on the Tories Community right to build is?

I cannot see it happening unless BG get backers for funding to acquire site.

My knowledge of the scheme is that the Council wish to retain the freehold of the site. Selling long leases on sections of it. Ovalhouse for example.

I think it is however likely that BG want to do a hybrid scheme. The Council arrange to have the site developed. Then BG manage it.
 
I think it is however likely that BG want to do a hybrid scheme. The Council arrange to have the site developed. Then BG manage it.

I don't want BG managing it (and I know they were hawking for this at one of the meetings)

Seeing as that's not been mentioned in any of their blurb, I wonder if such a change in direction would be constitutionally possible by the terms of their set up.
 
I don't want BG managing it (and I know they were hawking for this at one of the meetings)

Seeing as that's not been mentioned in any of their blurb, I wonder if such a change in direction would be constitutionally possible by the terms of their set up.

It is looking like they are arguing for a new organisation to run it. "Stewardship". It came up at the Social Life meetings.
 
It is looking like they are arguing for a new organisation to run it. "Stewardship". It came up at the Social Life meetings.
You think this bit of the Social Life report will work?
"The Community Development Trust should have an asset base so it can be financially
independent and generate its own income. If Lambeth Council wish to retain the freehold
of the Somerleyton Road site they could allow the Community Development Trust to hold
the head-lease of the land. This would allow the Community Development Trust to
generate rental income from community and commercial buildings and also from delivering
contracts (eg housing management or upkeep of public spaces).

"Housing Minister Grant Shapps MP visits Brixton Green and discusses the issues involved in creating urban community land trusts."

This was supposed to be what Brad and Grant Shapps were discussing according the legend on the photo linked to my post 403
 
I don't want BG managing it (and I know they were hawking for this at one of the meetings)

Seeing as that's not been mentioned in any of their blurb, I wonder if such a change in direction would be constitutionally possible by the terms of their set up.
I imagine that the constitution is what they refer to as their rules.
It contains a lot of detail about the shares - how many can you have (not more than £20,000 unless you are another Industrial and Provident Society), can you sell or transfer the shares (no).
It also stipulates a quorum of two for board meetings. The chair has a casting vote. Members must declare interests - if so they are not counted towards the quorum and cannot vote.

The bit of the rules called "Powers" seems quite wide ranging:
33 Powers
33.1 To carry out the society‘s objects, the society may:
33.1.1 Acquire assets and property which, in the trustees‘ opinion, may benefit the society‘s objects;
33.1.2 set up subsidiary companies, societies and other organisations;
33.1.3 take and hold shares, memberships, stock, debentures and other interests in other companies, societies and other organisations for the society and others;
33.1.4 buy, lease, hire, rent and own any real or personal property (tangible and intangible) of any description which, in the trustees‘ opinion, is appropriate for the needs of the society‘s objects;
33.1.5 make arrangements with any government or authority (local, municipal, national or international) that, in the trustees‘ opinion, is appropriate for the society‘s objects;
33.1.6 invest the society‘s funds in such property and investments as the trustees may consider appropriate, and subject to any applicable legal restrictions;
33.1.7 carry on any other activity which, in the trustees‘ opinion, may benefit the society‘s objects;
33.1.8 lend, deposit and advance money and give credit or procure others to do the same to or with partnerships, companies other businesses, undertakings and concerns of all kinds;
33.1.9 act as agent;
33.1.10 act as trustee;
33.1.11 give or procure guarantees and indemnities for the payment of money or for the performance of obligations by any person (even where the society receives no direct or indirect financial benefit);
33.1.12 make or procure grants, gifts, donations and investments of a social nature;
33.1.13 take mortgages, charges, liens and other security to secure obligations of others to the society;
33.1.14 borrow money and accept credit and grant mortgages, charges, liens and other security to secure the society‘s obligations, but
33.1.14.1 the society may not carry on a deposit taking business (within the meaning of the Banking Act 1987; and
33.1.14.2 where:
33.1.14.2.1 the loan is unsecured, and
33.1.14.2.2 the lender is not itself authorised under the Banking Act 1987,
33.1.14.3 the society will not pay a rate of interest that is higher than the society needs to fund its activities; in setting the rate, the trustees will take particular account of the society‘s intention to provide an opportunity for other public-spirited people and organisations to contribute financially to the community, with the expectation of a social dividend, rather than personal financial reward;
33.1.15 provide and procure services such as giving advice in relation to financial and non-financial facilities for people, undertakings and businesses of all kinds.
33.1.16 Create, make, draw, accept, endorse, execute, issue, discount, buy, sell, negotiate and deal in bills, notes, bills of lading, warrants, coupons, debentures and other negotiable or transferable instruments;
33.1.17 Do such other things that the trustees regard as incidental or conducive to the pursuit of the society‘s objects and the exercise of the society‘s express and implied powers.
33.1.18 Registration of a society or its rules under the Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1965 does not give any permission for a society to carry on financial services as regulated by the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 ("FSMA"). Any society which wishes to carry on such activities must seek advice and make an authorisation application to the FSA under Part IV of FSMA. Carrying on such activities without authorisation from the FSA under FSMA may lead to prosecution.
33.2 The society‘s borrowing limit is £10,000,000.
33.3 Rules 2 and 33 should be interpreted in the broadest way possible and not to limit or restrict the society‘s objects. Each object should be read as an independent main object.

Full document
 
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Wish they'd clear up the mess they'd sellotaped to a tree outside my blog.
But don't worry BG: I know what Brixton people want too, so I'll rip it down for you.
 
They've royally pissed me off today.

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http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2013/07/...-as-brixton-green-unilaterally-claim-support/
 
There's also a banjo player strumming away to no-one just out of shot.

He's lucky that they didn't set up at the other end of the block as there was a bottle fight going on just before.
 
Anyone got any idea what "block workout training" is and why it should be associated with a 'walk and talk' event?

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They were camped outside the railway tunnel today and collared me as I came through. The block workout training is some kind of equipment for people to exercise with. I asked about funding and social housing and they were very vague.
 
The Council lot were outside the school.

Had a decent chat with them about the scheme.

Including discussion on affordable housing and the green elements of the scheme. Green not in the sense of Brixton Green.

Officers are looking at how to build housing on site with target rents not the "affordable" ones.

About 78 units I think.

I did say that officers should put some of there ideas about the green elements of the scheme and the housing online as papers that people can comment on. As at moment there is great distrust in this Council actually getting new affordable housing built on site.
 
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