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Some of the newer Lidl and Aldis have wider bays but even these aren't big enough for some of the monster SUVs you get now.
Bring back the Morris Minor I say.
Bring back the Morris Minor I say.
SUVs make up more than 40% of new cars sold in the UK – while fully electric vehicles account for less than 2%
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More or Less on R4 did a piece about that car park story the other day. Long story short, it’s basically bollocks for now. Multi-story car parks have long been built to a standard of coping with cars of 2500kg. There are heavier cars than that in the US but very few in the UK — too few to worry about. It might become a problem in the future if trends continue, but not for a while yet.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I don't know why we bother actually - both Pandas and Polar bears are galactically shit animals.
Sure, they exist. The heaviest is a Rolls Royce at over four tonnes, IIRC. But it isn’t yet a systematic problem, according to the radio programme.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
That's not really true unless you're very rich though is it (another group firmly on the Urban hate list). Adding our 21 year old daughter who passed in May to the insurance for her Mum's Yaris (hardly an SUV) cost us over £800.
Maybe you get Premier League footballers and the children of billionaires passing their test and immediately taking to the road in Ferraris but most new drivers are held back by the sheer cost of motoring.
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hiraethified
Sure looks like a SUV to me seeing as it's far bigger and heavier - and therefore more polluting - than what people should be driving around cramped city streets deep into a climate crisis.
It's also ugly as fuck and unpleasantly aggressive looking.
That’s a Yaris Cross, not a Yaris. Not that the Cross is an SUV either. The clue is kind of in the name.
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hiraethified
Whatever it is, it's too fucking big and ugly as fuck.
Oh, and the Cross is a SUV. The clue is kind of in the description given by Toyota themselves.
Toyota Yaris Cross | Discover the Compact SUV
Why are you using a picture of it to respond to Micki though?
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hiraethified
Because I typed in Yarris and that's what came up.
So you leapt on the first picture you disliked without even checking that it was actually the car Micki was talking about.
Are you now going to say sorry to Micki for being antagonistic towards him for no reason?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Looks like this small 4 seater hatchback (it has 3 seatbelts in the back but unless they're midgets or under about 10 you won't get 3 people in the back) Excellent little car ideal for a woman who only drives about a 100 miles a week or a student borrowing her Mum's car when home from Uni. Hybrid to so she get's 60-70 mpg out of it.
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hiraethified
I'm crying tears of disappointment for my catastrophic error. I hope he can recover from what must have been a hugely distressing experience.
But he must be overjoyed for having you here to hold his hand and steward him though such traumatic times.
You just can’t ever just admit you’re wrong, can you? Even when it’s at its most blatant. Everything has to be an argument and winning points.
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hiraethified
I've literally just admitted to making a "catastrophic error," you fucking idiot, not that it's any of your business.
That was as sarcastic as fuck, though. It wasn’t in good faith.
It’s a laughing reaction. He’s laughing at your non-apology.
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hiraethified
Did he tell you that, or are you also the self elected Commodore of Emoji Interpretations?
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hiraethified
Let me just look up entirely the wrong Audi model, post up a picture saying how ugly it is and then start slagging that off.
Easy way to settle this: if you are actually both sorry and apologetic for charging off aggressively then just state it. Without sarcasm, aggression or equivocation. Or if you’re not then don’t.
platinumsage
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Careful now, add 9cm to its height and it will be totally inappropriate for anyone to own for any reason, as it will transform into an outrageous pedestrian killing climate-destroying death machine.
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hiraethified
Do you think all cars primarily designed for city use should be getting much lighter and much smaller or are you happy with the ongoing trend for vehicles to get bigger and heavier?
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
We have an 05 Yaris, its really a bit small for our needs, especially my height, but it works fine, cost bugger all and is cheap on maintenance. Much as I would like to get an electric, our next car is likely not to be electric. If I had electric car money I would be getting solar first but that requires your own house in general not renting.
platinumsage
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I prefer to judge each car on its own merits rather than throwing my toys out of the pram when a manufacturer assigns a particular label to what any reasonable person would regard as a reasonably-sized car.
I'm not aware of any car designed for city use which isn't also required to satisfy crash regulations designed for high-speed collisions, for example on motorways. This is as it should be and is why cars primarily designed for city use should not be getting smaller.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
People are going to buy the vehicle they think they need (limited only by their budget) My Audi despite its size is actually the smallest vehicle I've owned in a while. I've mostly had people carriers for the past couple of decades because I have four children and needed to lug them and a large amount of their crap around. Even now I need a good sized car because I often need to move 4 or 5 adults about.
People are not going to buy a small car because they live in the city when they feel they need a bigger one. There is a market for smaller vehicles yes but people can't be forced to buy them if they're not suitable. Besides the size of a car is determined mostly by engineering constraints not social or political ones. Whilst moving towards more environmentally friendly vehicles is good of course, the best way to reduce car usage especially in cities is improved public transport. (And even as a car driver I support that).
When Mrs Q and I went to Geneva earlier this year, the trains, trams and buses were clean, efficient and above all else they were free. This is what we should be aiming for.
People are not going to buy a small car because they live in the city when they feel they need a bigger one. There is a market for smaller vehicles yes but people can't be forced to buy them if they're not suitable. Besides the size of a car is determined mostly by engineering constraints not social or political ones. Whilst moving towards more environmentally friendly vehicles is good of course, the best way to reduce car usage especially in cities is improved public transport. (And even as a car driver I support that).
When Mrs Q and I went to Geneva earlier this year, the trains, trams and buses were clean, efficient and above all else they were free. This is what we should be aiming for.
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