petee
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my ex was(is?) a big ani defranco fan, we saw her once.
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Supreme Court Ruling time again
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my ex was(is?) a big ani defranco fan, we saw her once.
Yuwipi Woman
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spring-peeper
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So, would that mean that a Muslim coach can pray with his players in a similar fashion?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
don't be silly now
spring-peeper
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Yuwipi Woman
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In theory, yes. However, given the way they've "misinterpreted the facts" to get the ruling they wanted, I'm certain they'd just interpret them another way if they decided they wanted different results.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
For anybody interested in the US Supreme Court after the overturning of Roe v Wade, I'd highly recommend the Five Four Podcast. For years it has been chronicling how the religious fundamentalist, far right justices on the US Supreme Court have been gutting civil liberties, eroding the separation of church and state, inoculating the wealthy and religious elites from democratic oversight and trashing environmental protections. However bad you think this is, I guarantee you'll discover its worse the more you look into it:
www.fivefourpod.com
5-4
5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. It’s a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court’s most important landmark cases, and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped...
www.fivefourpod.com
Anju
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This article is saying that because they misrepresented the facts the ruling may not make it legal for a public school employee to pray with their students. Basically as they pretended that the coach in question was praying privately, despite his media tour and photos of him praying surrounded by students the ruling effectively only relates to taking a moment for private prayer, which is already allowed after a different case from 1992.
The Supreme Court hands the religious right a big victory by lying about the facts of a case
Kennedy v. Bremerton School District is a big victory for the religious right, but only because Gorsuch misrepresents the facts of the case.
www.vox.com
Yuwipi Woman
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The Supreme Court hands the religious right a big victory by lying about the facts of a case
Kennedy v. Bremerton School District is a big victory for the religious right, but only because Gorsuch misrepresents the facts of the case.
The coach clearly led the player in prayer. One player testified that he felt he wouldn't get any playing time if he didn't participate. That is coercive and clearly unconstitutional if they're ruling in real facts and not made up ones.
Yes, they've left the lowers courts a lot of confused rulings that don't make sense. I think what they've tried to do is to leave courts that would like to ok public prayer the leeway they need to justify it. It will drive a bigger wedge into the country, and give the far right cults that would like to see a theocracy emerge some feeling that the Supreme Court is sympathetic to their cause.
I see that some elected officials are openly calling for theocracy now, saying that the church should actually be superior to the government. That's some Taliban shit right there:
Video in the link.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Listened to that 5-4 podcast on Roe V Wade as mentioned by Jeff Robinson , Kavanaugh's justification that 'the constitution is not pro choice or pro life, the constitution is neutral', absolute bat-shittery
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Christ, this is a shocker. Apparently at one point, Clarence Thomas did not ask a question during oral arguments for 10 FUCKING YEARS. Imagine that, keeping schtum instead of ever seeking clarification or testing the position of parties whose dispute you're meant to be resolving! What motivated him to finally pip up? Apparently he was concerned about a law that deprived domestic abusers of the right to purchase firearms. Seriously fuck this fascist idiot. Hurry up and die you fat old prick!
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
He's achieved one of the highest legal offices in the country, and would you believe he's still sore about liberals holding him back? The fact that bigots turned him down for work after he completed law school, because they thought he had made his way through Affirmative Action, is all the fault of liberals apparently. The spiteful fucker's got a massive chip on his shoulder.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I don't get how that's the fault of liberals though?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Liberals are in favour of Affirmative Action, and people turned him because they thought he benefited from it, therefore it's the liberals' fault.
I found this NYT article, which would seem to support my assertion that Judge Thomas bears a massive childish grudge:
New York Times in 1993 said:
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
Doug henwood had an episode of his 'Behind The News' podcast back in 2019 devoted to the life and political philosophy of Clarence Thomas. Don't have time to find it now but its less than hour and quite illuminating.
Yossarian
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Wow, what better time to sharply limit the EPA's ability to do anything about climate change. Fucking maniacs.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
These fascist maniacs are an existential threat to humanity
Yuwipi Woman
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Stick a fork us. We're done. I've been arguing for a while that we're just going to talk about climate change, while doing fuckall. The upper-class just won't allow us to do anything meaningful. By the time the average person really sees how fucked we are, it will be far too late.
I remember taking a tour of a fossil bed. The tour guide spent a couple of minutes speculating on what will replace us and someday look down at our bones. These idiots just increased the odds of that exact scenario.
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I shouldn't be surprised. Justice Gorsuch's mother was Anne Gorsuch:
Anne Gorsuch Burford - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
How the dissent ends:
"The stakes here are high. Yet the Court today prevents congressionally authorized agency action to curb power plants’ carbon dioxide emissions. The Court appoints it-self—instead of Congress or the expert agency—the decision- maker on climate policy. I cannot think of many things more frightening."
"The stakes here are high. Yet the Court today prevents congressionally authorized agency action to curb power plants’ carbon dioxide emissions. The Court appoints it-self—instead of Congress or the expert agency—the decision- maker on climate policy. I cannot think of many things more frightening."
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Thread documenting all the fascist shit this court has done in just one term:
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
They're starting to accept cases for this next year's term. This case could end independent/free elections in the US if they rule in favor of the Republicans:
If they do, it will give them a broad power to control redistricting, elections, and even overturn results. We would no longer be a democracy in anything other than name.
If they do, it will give them a broad power to control redistricting, elections, and even overturn results. We would no longer be a democracy in anything other than name.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Wtf? Didn't they verify Biden as the President though, or am I missing something?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Yes, they did. This is for elections in the future. Many red states are making laws to control elections that lower courts have ruled against. The SC taking this case, probably isn't a good sign for the future.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
If they carry on down this path they do know they could end up taking the country to war right?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
All of the right-wingers I know think they'll win.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
In terms of the side the military takes?
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