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Suarez gets 8 match ban

Yeah, cos you really stick to the facts don't you? :rolleyes:
What the fuck are you mumbling about now? He has admitted in the past AND on this thread to reading the Sun and has also quoted from it, he only started backtracking when pulled on it for accusing someone else of believing what they read in papers
 
Wasn't asking you about the evidence, I was wondering if you thought "the journalists have made all this up and they have also made up the reports that the club briefed them". Any thoughts?
They could well have made it up, yeah. I don't have your faith in journalistic integrity.
 
They could well have made it up, yeah. I don't have your faith in journalistic integrity.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Anyway, if you are right Henry Winter and the Telegraph are going to be facing a chilly start to the New Year, massive lawsuit heading their way from Liverpool FC and all that. They must be going fucking mental that journalists have made this story up.
 
What the fuck are you mumbling about now? He has admitted in the past AND on this thread to reading the Sun and has also quoted from it,
Can you show me where on this thread SK has admitted to reading the sun, please?
 
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Anyway, if you are right Henry Winter and the Telegraph are going to be facing a chilly start to the New Year, massive lawsuit heading their way from Liverpool FC and all that. They must be going fucking mental that journalists have made this story up.
I think he's clever enough to have it written as speculation.
 
You're just making yourself look like an ever bigger idiot now - keep going.

To be fair, when it comes to being a fucking idiot you are in a class of your own. Ironic really given it's the only time anyone could associate a Kopite with 'class'.

Justice for the 96, Boycott the Sun, but, errr... ahem..... Grab a sneaky wee link on the www and get a link for others to read..... Class.... pure class.
 
To be fair, when it comes to being a fucking idiot you are in a class of your own. Ironic really given it's the only time anyone could associate a Kopite with 'class'.

Justice for the 96, Boycott the Sun, but, errr... ahem..... Grab a sneaky wee link on the www and get a link for others to read..... Class.... pure class.
I'm not losing any sleep over it, I find people - especially non-Liverpool supporters having a go at me for it a bit pathetic tbh.
 
From a quick read:

- The word used was 'negro' not 'negrito.'
- Suarez did admit saying 'por que negro' as was all over the press.
- Evra claimed that he also told him 'I don't speak to blacks' (in Spanish obviously) as well as using the word negro several other times.
- There's a lot of legal stuff about 'objective' offence versus 'subjective' which in this context basically means whether offence was intended. They have ruled that the FA rules apply an objective test.

Sure there's a lot more in there - it's very detailed.
 
Go and search.

eta, Fuck it, here you are, and don't make out it's a joke as he has in the past quoted from the same.
Eh? That's where he admits to posting a link from the Sun, not reading the paper. And don't try and wriggle out of it by saying they are the same thing.
 
OK key point I think - the decision is highly based on Evra's evidence being considered more credible than Suarez's, whose account didn't fit with the evidence. In particular Suarez is seen pinching Evra on the arm at a point where he claimed he was trying to be conciliatory.
 
Eh? That's where he admits to posting a link from the Sun, not reading the paper. And don't try and wriggle out of it by saying they are the same thing.
He posted a link to an article and admits to reading it, but is not a Sun reader?
Suarez admitted making a racist remark repeatedly but is not a racist?
Seriously what fucking world are you living in?
 
Suarez admitted making a racist remark repeatedly but is not a racist?
Haven't had time to read the report in full, but I don't think he has admitted to making the remark repeatedly. And he hasn't admitted that it was racist either.
 
He posted a link to an article and admits to reading it, but is not a Sun reader?
Suarez admitted making a racist remark repeatedly but is not a racist?
Seriously what fucking world are you living in?
I can tell the difference between a looking at a website and buying a paper - It appears you can't.
 
Haven't had time to read the report in full, but I don't think he has admitted to making the remark repeatedly. And he hasn't admitted that it was racist either.
This is where the dispute is, at least as to the intent, he has admitted saying it and in the context of when it was said it can only reasonably be taken as racist, as I am getting sick of repeating, you would not refer to a black man during a heated argument as "little black boy" unless you intended to cause maximum offence.
 
you would not refer to a black man during a heated argument as "little black boy" unless you intended to cause maximum offence.
What if it doesn't cause offence, where you come from?. Evra kicked off the exchange with a spanish/south american insult - but you then want to take an english view on that word??
 
What if it doesn't cause offence, where you come from?. Evra kicked off the exchange with a spanish/south american insult - but you then want to take an english view on that word??
If Evra should be charged as well then that is another matter, it does not make Suarez less guilty. If I am called a plastic paddy does that make it ok to call the person a nigger?
 
What if it doesn't cause offence, where you come from?. Evra kicked off the exchange with a spanish/south american insult - but you then want to take an english view on that word??
Not according to evra he didn't. And the case hinges on the fact that suarez's evidence was found not to be credible. I've only skim read it but the judgement seems a fair one to me. If nothing else this is a lesson to suarez not to try to bullshit a tribunal which is what he appears to have tried to do. Makes liverpool club's reaction look extremely foolish too.
 
Finally, the truth.

Despite the punishment, the commission conceded: "This case is not about whether Mr Suarez is in fact a racist. Indeed, the commission will no doubt conclude that there are some indications that he is not."
 
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