I'm good thanks, but do keep avoiding the questions.
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I'm good thanks, but do keep avoiding the questions.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
As others have told you, if anything about this discussion is pointless it was your decision to restrict your observation on the PCS action to this...
At the start of the summer holidays? They will cop a ton of flak for that!
As you implied the timing of the action was unfortunate I asked you very straightforwardly when would have been a better time? You've subsequently confirmed my impression that you yourself have never withdrawn your labour in a collective action, and therefore had no idea that the purpose of the industrial action was to create maximum disruption with the minimum impact upon the pay-packets of the workers involved.
Do you support the PCS action?
I'm charming to those that deserve respect. Not you though. Nor the other little troll.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you told a poster to kill themself, so what does that make you?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Again, what questions, you delusional fool?
Yours is "do as I say, not as I do". Delusional and arrogant. What a fucking combination.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
"You're avoiding my questions". Whine, whine, whine.
This is a straw man: i didn't say the discussion was pointless. I was referring to your question. I'm perfectly happy to discuss the strike, which is why I contributed to it. You then decided to infer something unpleasant that was never there. Like the rest of the class warriors.
Doesn't matter whether i've been on strike or not. Completely irrelevant. Assuming therefore that only people who've been on strike, only members of that special club, can have a valid contribution is pathetic and arrogant.
A one day strike in this instance is a complete waste of everyone's time. The PCS are largely ineffectual and Mark Serwotka is all talk.
http://www.urban75.net/forums/goto/post?id=13299768#post-13299768
Do you have short term memory loss or a broken keyboard?
I really don't care. He's an arsehole that deliberately stalks me around, with moderator support, provoking this shit. I give him shit back that's 100x worse in the hope he might wake up to himself, though at this point if he did kill himself...well, one less arsehole in the world is no great loss. Besides I asked politely.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you objected because they are holding at a time that will inconvenience people - thus missing the whole point of what strikes are about. You refused to say when an appropriate time would be, and have now shifted your argument to it just being a one day strike. The fact that it is probably only the first one day strike (unless the government agrees immediately) has, of course, totally passed you by.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I cant decide whether or not this a step up from your call for someone to get cancer for disagreeing with you about a TV show
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Fucking hell, can we not have this thread, of all threads, derailed with anti-strike carping?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You're just digging yourself in further; stand back and have a bit of a talk with yourself.
It wasn't pointless to ask you about the timing of the strike because questioning eventually elicited the truth that you actually think that the industrial action by the passport office workers is a waste of time, that the union (and their leader) are ineffectual. That's important stuff and worthy of discussion.
So you don't support the action after all; why didn't you just say so this morning, rather than blathering on about disruption and flak?
i haven't seen a single post that is anti strike.
Because it's not relevant.
And yo ustill havent shown anything that is a 'whiney pop at the union'
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Thats nice dear, i dont care.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The fact that you dont support the strike after all isnt relevant? Really??
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
about anything or anyone other than yourself
that's right dad!
I support the cause. I don't think this action is effective.
editor
hiraethified
Consider this your first warning.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
So you dont support the strike. And that is clearly relevant (which you denied a moment ago)
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're either doing this for a wind-up or you're genuinely thick. Which is it?
Most people on these boards are familiar with the saying "letting the cat out of the bag". But you? You play dumb.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the thing is- and I don't really find one dayers effective either- with the anti strike laws in this country, the erosion of solidarity and the quite real fear that a rolling strike would see you frozen out from wages and a union that won't even (because it can't afford it) cover half wages as strike pay- One dayers are what we have as a tool. Now, when your knife is blunt and you only get a limited opportunity to use it, where do you land the blow? Where it damn well counts.
Take for example when the petrol hauliers even suggested that they might ballot for strike action. It was chaos! queues at the pumps, petrol running out etc. Why? because they have a hand where it counts, on the jugular.
To strike when the iron is hot then must be seen as the soundest tactical move within a defanged workforce. And remember this is not for longer lunchbreaks and moar wages. It's to defend however they can agreements made that are now being broken. Think in tactics.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's such a preposterous position that it is almost impossible to respond sensibly.
But, hey...here goes...one last attempt...
So you joined a thread called "Strike!" that was created to "keep track of official and unofficial strikes, walk outs and worker led direct action, whether large or small. [Ideally not for bickering], but to help promote and support local action." and decided to make the point that the action was timed such that it would cause inconvenience and draw criticism. Then, after much bickering, you came clean and declared your hand by saying that the strike was a "waste of time" and the union "ineffectual"...and you think none of that relevant?
You've done more than take a whiney pop there chum; you've outed yourself as a bit of cunt.
That's such a preposterous position that it is almost impossible to respond sensibly.
But, hey...here goes...one last attempt...
So you joined a thread called "Strike!" that was created to "keep track of official and unofficial strikes, walk outs and worker led direct action, whether large or small. [Ideally not for bickering], but to help promote and support local action." and decided to make the point that the action was timed such that it would cause inconvenience and draw criticism. Then, after much bickering, you came clean and declared your hand by saying that the strike was a "waste of time" and the union "ineffectual"...and you think none of that relevant?
You've done more than take a whiney pop there chum; you've outed yourself as a bit of cunt.
I gave my opinion. I don't give a fuck for your ridiculous analysis.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Confirming my conclusion.
Except here it won't work because people will feel they have lost money - in some cases a lot of money - and will blame the PCS. I am judging this case onits own merits. It has nothing to do with the overall principle of strike action. I was invited to explain how i felt about theis particular strike and have done so. I didn't say so initially because it wasn't relevant.
This is just another ad hominem. I'm aware of what the phrase means, genius, that isn't what I asked you.
of what?
you're quote happy for the cunt to keep stalking me and harassing me along with the other users and yet you do nothing except whine that you yourself are being harassed when its brought to your attention.
Nice holiday was it?
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