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How unwieldy is their comments section?Beyond wrong:
http://saveourstarbucks.com/
You have to watch a video to learn how to email them!
http://saveourstarbucks.com/PostYourThoughts.aspx
Looosers!
How unwieldy is their comments section?Beyond wrong:
http://saveourstarbucks.com/
At least some people on that site have a sense of proportion.Yeah, I came across that website too!
Fucking weirdos.
someone on SOS said:Really people? This is what Americans have found to unite on and protest on? Seriously people? An international conglomerate corporation is closing 600 of their stores and THIS is what you unite your protest and petition efforts again? OH NO!!! I might have to walk or drive an extra 2 BLOCKS to find another Starbucks. Look, plain and simple, Starbucks is a victim of their own business plan. Its called OVERSATURATION!!! I was in NYC once and stood in front of a Starbucks and then turned around and saw ANOTHER STARBUCKS. Look I love coffee MORE than the next person but seriously people, why don't you unite to protest REAL concerns in this world such as US Policies around the world? Equal Rights? Global Warming? Our down turning economy?? ...no, its coffee. Wow. Americans have once again found a way to embarrass me.
They seem to have overtaken McDonald's as the face of evil capitalism.
Sad for the staff of course...
I guess now that pubs are non smoking and a lot are offering coffee may have had a hand in this too?
That's not my reason. I prefer to frequent local, independent cafes.
I do as well, but I live in a place that never saw the overpopulation of fru-fru coffeeshops, not even Starbucks.
I'd be surprised if you could seriously offer a shot of espresso cheaper than about £1.20 and still have a viable business.
The best coffee in Brixton is the Monmouth coffee served at the not-as-posh-as-it-looks deli in the arcade, but you can get decent coffee at the the Lounge and Ritzy too.Best UK high street coffee IMO is Pret, but I avoid them too since they are McDs by another name - but only a quid or 99p for a cup of black (ie Americano) IRRR.
To pick some numbers out of the air as an illustration: if it costs them 90p per cup to make an espresso then they will make 60p profit on a price of £1.50 and 10p profit on a price of £1. That means that they have to sell six times as many cups of £1 as £1.50 coffee to make the same profit. No way will they manage that.thing is tho, it depends how you look at it, like when I was working 9 to 5 last year, I would fucking love to have an espresso or a decent coffee on my way to work, I rarely did because it meant getting up 10 minutes earlier, and it cost about 1.50 or something. If it was dead cheap I might have gone everyday and definetely if I was in toon on Saturday I would stop in for a coffee, I think they'd make the same profit if they made it more affordable
To pick some numbers out of the air as an illustration: if it costs them 90p per cup to make an espresso then they will make 60p profit on a price of £1.50 and 10p profit on a price of £1. That means that they have to sell six times as many cups of £1 as £1.50 coffee to make the same profit. No way will they manage that.
And that's if they manage to keep the cost down to 90p in the first place.
if you just had a small cafe and made good coffee somewhere central it would never cost 90p to make a cup of coffee
paying for shit like sofas, lights, adverts, high st locations
^^This.That's an assertion of hope, rather than anything else.
So your local coffee shop wouldn't have lighting, a halfway decent location so people know it's there, or anywhere to sit?
My partner and I go for coffee A LOT in Manchester. We live on the border of Manchester City Centre and Salford and often go into town in the middle of the day to have something to eat and drink before I go to work. We do consider Starbucks expensive and try and go to local Greek Cafes or a local chain called Java who have a branch near Oxford Road Train Station. I can't quote you their prices but I think you can get a toastie for about £1.50 and a coffee for about £1.20. My partner runs a TV and radio production company and often holds ideas meetings and meetings with potential clients at local hotels like the beautiful Edwardian Midland. In the Midland (which is opposite the Manchester Library branch of Starbucks) you can get a large pot of tea for two (with extra hot water) and some biscuits brought to you by a polite waiter at a very comfy sofa (sometimes with the pianist playing in the background) all for £6. We never eat there because a basic ham sarnie is about £9 but we do go to the Midland when we want some inexpensive luxury. We are not loaded (our combined income is about £29,000) and the rent on our flat is £700/month. We don't get many holidays or buy clothes and stuff for the house and we buy all the basics items from our local supermarket. We are also members of our local gym which is the YMCA. It costs about £42/month each. We never use the gym and the pool is a bit tiny but I go because my partner is a member and it is nice to go swimming together. The nearest local authority pool is The Manchester Aquatics Centre on Oxford Road which costs about I think £4 for a swim but you can really power up and down (if its not some random kiddies swimming less going on).
If you're forced to spend time in a Starbucks the trick is to have the tea - that's harder to ruin than coffee.Looks like sales are still on the slide.
Starbucks reports another quarter of declining sales, reaffirms guidance
Starbucks reported its fiscal Q3 earnings report as an activist investor is knocking on its door.finance.yahoo.com
I have never understood the appeal of Starbucks. Everything it sells is overpriced and overrated. I'd literally rather have a mug of gold blend.