Should there be a ban on private ownership of firearms in England and Wales - With Poll.

[Saul Goodman]

Said absolutely nobody

It's almost as if he's 'being wilfully disingenuous for attention'.

 

[David Clapson]

Typically it descends into a thread of men arguing about guns

When novices go to a shooting range, the women typically do better than the men. The men feel compelled to act like they already know what to do, whereas the women listen to the instructor.

 

[Funky_monks]

Fair enough, happy to be told how useful a shotgun is at pest control compared to traps and various poisons, I have some experience but Im sure there a people here with more

Well, it's difficult to make any sensible use of a woodpigeon you've poisoned isn't it?

Also, poisons are a horrible way to die and will concentrate up the food chain as the poisoned animals are eaten by scavengers. Resistance to poisons is becoming more common in certain animals whereas resistance to shotgun is pretty unlikely.
Some animals, its unavoidable - rats, mice etc. Grain needs to be safe for consumption and thus trapping and poisons are a requirement for red tractor etc.

Shotguns are also a very effective method of euthanasia of sick animals- a .410 is probably the quickest way to euthenase a poorly sheep, for example. Unlike a captive bolt, it causes death so no need to bleed after. It can also be used to control rabbits and crows.

 

[Funky_monks]

I would get rid of all guns from the world tomorrow. If you want to hunt or play sports get a bow and arrow. I know that's not particularly realistic it possible and it's not a big priority for me but fuck guns.

There's a reason bowhunting is illegal here.
Far shorter range, far less accurate.
If people are going to shoot animals, it should be done as cleanly and efficiently as possible with minimal suffering.
Guns are far more equipped to achieve that than bows.

 

[maomao]

There's a reason bowhunting is illegal here.
Far shorter range, far less accurate.
If people are going to shoot animals, it should be done as cleanly and efficiently as possible with minimal suffering.
Guns are far more equipped to achieve that than bows.

That's only if you want hunting accessible to as many people as possible. Much better if it was only the really dedicated nutters.

 

[Funky_monks]

That's only if you want hunting accessible to as many people as possible. Much better if it was only the really dedicated nutters.

Legalising bowhunting would make it more accessible, not less. You don't need any kind of license to possess a bow.

 

[maomao]

Legalising bowhunting would make it more accessible, not less. You don't need any kind of license to possess a bow.

I think we can manage bow licensing in our new offensive weapons bill.

 

[Funky_monks]

I think we can manage bow licensing in our new offensive weapons bill.

Righto. Not sure how much difference your proposal will make.
Those who want to hunt and can only do it illegally don't bother with guns or bows anyway.

 

[maomao]

Righto. Not sure how much difference your proposal will make.
Those who want to hunt and can only do it illegally don't bother with guns or bows anyway.

Yes, I did say that it wasn't particularly realistic or possible in my first post. If you'd like to continue the discussion please do continue to invent my posts.