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cesare said:
Yep, who the fck is that bastard? It's gone from a hotel and a souvenir shop and carpark to a fuck awful travesty of disney-lite in just 30 odd years :facepalm::mad:
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It was always a bit more than a hotel and souvenir shop ;)

But yeah, I agree they fucked it up.
 
madzone said:
It's not a cut price airline. It's just cheaper to run the small planes than it is the hulking great copters I s'pose. For a twenty minute flight it's a bit hard for them to justify charging nearly £200 per adult.

There's been a massive fuss down here about the plans for the scillonian. They say they need a bigger boat, which is fair enough but they've then decided they need to adapt the quay (which is a historical, listed thingy) and add industrial buildings and a fucking huge and ugly passenger terminal. There is a much better option (called Option Penzance - you could probably google it) which utilises the buildings already there but we were held to ransom by developers (yet a fucking gain)
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Plus, I suppose that the memory of the copter crash & associations aren't going away any time soon, particularly as the copter option is limited to just a narrow amount of cash-rich people.

Passenger terminal? Wtf?
 
cesare said:
Yep, who the fck is that bastard? It's gone from a hotel and a souvenir shop and carpark to a fuck awful travesty of disney-lite in just 30 odd years :facepalm::mad:
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we all go to cape cornwall instead. Its NT. they ay be a PITA soetimes, but they have their uses to stop developers shipping on the coastline. There's some fascinating archaeology all round there.
 
madzone said:
Gosh - what a useful addition to the discussion. Hardly immovable. Just trying to get the daft twunt to actually clarify what he means. He's representative of the kind of tourist we get who comes down once a year, stays in the same place every time and suddenly becomes a fucking expert on countywide issues. He's got two people who live here trying to work out what the fuck he's going on about.
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That's right. Cornwall is so special and so utterly distinct from anything else on planet earth that only a cornish person, grown out of cornish soil, will ever possibly understand :D :D
 
Idaho said:
That's right. Cornwall is so special and so utterly distinct from anything else on planet earth that only a cornish person, grown out of cornish soil, will ever possibly understand :D :D
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apparently so, if visitors cannot comprehend that the stunning beachside location they see in august, raking in a 'fortune' for the owners may not be the same in december.

is that Cornwall being unique, or is that visitors not bothering to think whether the year round resident has a different experience of being there than a tourist.
 
madzone said:
It might also be historical in that it's where the sewage used to be pumped out so it/s never really been utitlised as a beach per se. It's also stony as fuck and going just a few miles along the beach is much better and there's more of it.
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Yes it was! When I was a kid you could walk up from Mounts Bay campinz, cross over the railway line and sit on sandy beach; and it's sand all the way to Mar from there. The stony bit only starts once you get nearer to Pz.
 
toggle said:
we all go to cape cornwall instead. Its NT. they ay be a PITA soetimes, but they have their uses to stop developers shipping on the coastline. There's some fascinating archaeology all round there.
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I dunno what PITA is :oops: Cape Cornwall's lovely, but it's not beach so it's never had a string of small businesses selling icecreams etc.
 
cesare said:
I forget the name of the business that owns Land's End...
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It's not that cunt de Savary, is it?
Whenever I think of Cornwall getting fucked over, I remember that shit-bag and his various machinations with your county and local councillors.
The beardy face of capital. :mad:
 
cesare said:
Yes it was! When I was a kid you could walk up from Mounts Bay campinz, cross over the railway line and sit on sandy beach; and it's sand all the way to Mar from there. The stony bit only starts once you get nearer to Pz.
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I thought you were talking about the bit near Pz :confused:By the three tunnels
 
madzone said:
It's not a cut price airline. It's just cheaper to run the small planes than it is the hulking great copters I s'pose. For a twenty minute flight it's a bit hard for them to justify charging nearly £200 per adult.

There's been a massive fuss down here about the plans for the scillonian. They say they need a bigger boat, which is fair enough but they've then decided they need to adapt the quay (which is a historical, listed thingy) and add industrial buildings and a fucking huge and ugly passenger terminal. There is a much better option (called Option Penzance - you could probably google it) which utilises the buildings already there but we were held to ransom by developers (yet a fucking gain)
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The current setup is crap tbf. There's nowhere to get out of the rain while waiting to board.

The terminal is basically a shed, a queue and some quayside.
 
toggle said:
apparently so, if visitors cannot comprehend that the stunning beachside location they see in august, raking in a 'fortune' for the owners may not be the same in december.

is that Cornwall being unique, or is that visitors not bothering to think whether the year round resident has a different experience of being there than a tourist.
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I think a lot of visitors are far more aware of the problems than you think. I know it's heresy to suggest it, but those problems are actually common across the country in tourist areas. Same with the Lakes, same with parts of Devon, Dorset, Norfolk etc.

I think second homes should atract triple council tax. Same for all short-rent housing. No council tax on houses with 5 year rental contracts.
 
madzone said:
It's not a cut price airline. It's just cheaper to run the small planes than it is the hulking great copters I s'pose. For a twenty minute flight it's a bit hard for them to justify charging nearly £200 per adult.
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Cheaper for the operators, but probably not for Cornwall County Council, who may well end up subsidising ATC improvements etc.
 
Idaho said:
I think a lot of visitors are far more aware of the problems than you think. I know it's heresy to suggest it, but those problems are actually common across the country in tourist areas. Same with the Lakes, same with parts of Devon, Dorset, Norfolk etc.

I think second homes should atract triple council tax. Same for all short-rent housing. No council tax on houses with 5 year rental contracts.
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Bah, what could someone from a Somerset seaside town know about the travails of Cornwall?
 
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