Should the rest of us subsidise South West of England's water bills?

[cesare]

What caravan/camping are you thinking of then?

The big one that's been there at least since the 70s. Looking towards the sea, left a bit and over crossing to sandy beach. Right, up hill towards Chyandour then station. Behind, couple of roads up to Gulval.

 

[Teaboy]

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Having been here a few years I've noticed this pattern see, he's quite consistent like that.

Anyway as everything is now clear what does everyone think of my idea of forcing Rick Stein to pay for everything?

 

[toggle]

My god, I've just read the whole thread and my eyes are on the verge of bleeding.

Madz / Toggle it seems to me BA is making quite a simple argument, there are large corporations operating out of Cornwall specificially making money out of the tourist industry, do you disagree with that?

If they wish to make money out of Cornwall because it's a special case geographically then they should expect to put far more back into the community such as subsiding water rates because it's a special case geographically.

Of course, there are many small businesses struggling by, but we are not talking about them. Hell, fucking let Rick Stein subsidise everyone's water he can afford it.

it was when he started labelling tourist businesses as making enough money to afford the subsidies that caused the problem. there was only recognition that one man businesses should be exempt. this was IMO, ignoring a whole range of businesses that seem to do well when you see them as a tourist, but where the owner could probably make more working full time year round in sainsburys

 

[madzone]

The big one that's been there at least since the 70s. Looking towards the sea, left a bit and over crossing to sandy beach. Right, up hill towards Chyandour then station. Behind, couple of roads up to Gulval.

I think you're a bit confused The bit that Fraction Man has described is a car park/level crossing in Eastern Green/Longrock. It has an industrial estate behind it.

We need Ground Elder - he can maybe help

 

[cesare]

Councils tend to be in a bind with this sort of shit, unfortunately. They have a responsibility to "promote" their area, but a lot of big companies use the obligation councils have to their area to manipulate policy. Councils are afraid to call the bluff because they often foresee large amounts of money sailing lawyer-ward if they piss big business off.
That's not to say communities can't resist or fight for a deal that does best by the community, though. The people of Sheringham in Norfolk gave Tesco some wicked bruises.

Then, of course, you also have the problem of petty (and not so petty) corruption in local politics, and a business class who're all too happy to exploit it.

Yep, but some councils are more feisty than others. Cornwall CC seems to just roll over at the sniff of big business.

 

[butchersapron]

Indeed.

 

[toggle]

It

was

obvious

what

he

meant

its

the

same

thing

he

says

every

day

Having been here a few years I've noticed this pattern see, he's quite consistent like that.

Anyway as everything is now clear what does everyone think of my idea of forcing Rick Stein to pay for everything?

hes another PITA. lets make hi responsible for padstows bills

 

[madzone]

It

was

obvious

what

he

meant

its

the

same

thing

he

says

every

day

Having been here a few years I've noticed this pattern see, he's quite consistent like that.

Anyway as everything is now clear what does everyone think of my idea of forcing Rick Stein to pay for everything?

I love the idea of taxing Rick Stein till he fucks off.

 

[toggle]

Yep, but some councils are more feisty than others. Cornwall CC seems to just roll over at the sniff of big business.

thats because there is so little of it here.

 

[ViolentPanda]

There aren't that many bits of cornwall that don't get that label. Not that long ago it was the most industrialised bit of the country

For over 2,000 years, too. Pity so little of that vast mineral wealth stayed in the area.

 

[madzone]

Yep, but some councils are more feisty than others. Cornwall CC seems to just roll over at the sniff of big business.

Certainly does. I think we maybe suffer from more than our fair share of councillors being given 'incentives'

 

[cesare]

I think you're a bit confused The bit that Fraction Man has described is a car park/level crossing in Eastern Green/Longrock. It has an industrial estate behind it.

We need Ground Elder - he can maybe help

I'm not confused There's only one big caravan/camping site there and it's not far from sandy beach despite what you say.

 

[toggle]

For over 2,000 years, too. Pity so little of that vast mineral wealth stayed in the area.

unless in the form of fucking big houses for the national trust to show to tourists

 

[madzone]

I'm not confused There's only one big caravan/camping site there and it's not far from sandy beach despite what you say.

What's it called?

 

[DotCommunist]

come on, I bet Stein does a fantastic seafood medley and you've got to love a man who has beef with a whole county.

What has he ever done wrong?

 

[toggle]

What's it called?

fucking never never land.

can we go back to discussing what to do with stein now please.

 

[toggle]

come on, I bet Stein does a fantastic seafood medley and you've got to love a man who has beef with a whole county.

What has he ever done wrong?

visit padstow, think about what it is like to live there. then be glad youre leaving

 

[fractionMan]

urgh. padstow.

 

[madzone]

fucking never never land.

can we go back to discussing what to do with stein now please.

No-one stopping you.

 

[two sheds]

It

was

obvious

what

he

meant

its

the

same

thing

he

says

every

day

Having been here a few years I've noticed this pattern see, he's quite consistent like that.

Anyway as everything is now clear what does everyone think of my idea of forcing Rick Stein to pay for everything?

Yeh and places like that bar on the beach in Perranporth, that makes shit loads of money.











*runs*

 

[toggle]

Yeh and places like that bar on the beach in Perranporth, that makes shit loads of money.











*runs*

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yep, but some councils are more feisty than others. Cornwall CC seems to just roll over at the sniff of big business.

I've noticed. They have a long and dishonourable record of doing so, too. A mate's dad, who retired to one of those "chalet" communities that you used to see all over the west country in the early '80s, after a life working as a ganger on the railways, saw his little retirement home and those of his neighbours CP'ed from under them to make way for some "mega tourist village" fantasy that never happened. All because some businessman made a promise (and then swiftly reneged on once the land was clear and was suitable for a "luxury housing development" instead.

 

[Idaho]

For over 2,000 years, too. Pity so little of that vast mineral wealth stayed in the area.

Name one instance of mineral wealth ever trickling down and benefiting all. Go on. As a challenge

 

[cesare]

I've noticed. They have a long and dishonourable record of doing so, too. A mate's dad, who retired to one of those "chalet" communities that you used to see all over the west country in the early '80s, after a life working as a ganger on the railways, saw his little retirement home and those of his neighbours CP'ed from under them to make way for some "mega tourist village" fantasy that never happened. All because some businessman made a promise (and then swiftly reneged on once the land was clear and was suitable for a "luxury housing development" instead.

They've pretty much become the architect of their own downfall; smoothing the way for big business (but without demanding a decent wedge for it), putting the smaller operations against the wall and creating eyesores in the process that put off their tourist industry.

 

[ViolentPanda]

unless in the form of fucking big houses for the national trust to show to tourists

Don't forget the gardens too, toggle!

 

[toggle]

Don't forget the gardens too, toggle!

i tend to con sider them part and parcel of the house complex.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Name one instance of mineral wealth ever trickling down and benefiting all. Go on. As a challenge

Vichy water?

 

[danny la rouge]

Wow. When I left this thread this morning I didn't expect it to go off like that.

Trago Mills. He owns it all.

Does he own Land's End, too? I'm surprised he doesn't have the bizarre statues making loony rightwing "points" there too, then.


Anyway, I think we can all agree that the Cornish and other South Westerners shouldn't be left to shoulder this financial burden. That yes, the Water Companies shouldn't be privatised. But that this doesn't mean the residents of the South West should be abandoned.

 

[madzone]

I'd like to know who owns lands end now. Bit of personal interest.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'd like to know who owns lands end now. Bit of personal interest.

I was there in the last couple of weeks. During the England/Germany game. It was deserted. But still tacky as hell. We felt we had to go, though.