Should Adultery be illegal?
- Thread starter Gmart
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Would they? Do you have figures for this or have you just plucked this fact from your arse?
untethered
For industry & decency
The government do try to teach us moral values, just bad ones. They're slightly more subtle than putting guns to heads, which makes them harder to resist.
And as we all know, having to do something you might not want to was abolished in the 1960s by people who knew better than the previous few millennia of humans.
Formal contracts sustain things that are beneficial through times of strain and doubt. You might want to live in an easy come, easy go society, but I certainly don't.
For your evidence, you need look no further than the misery wrought by unmarried couples that break up having had a child or two, and then go on to repeat the mistake time and time again.
I don't think adultery should be criminally punishable.
However, it's worth observing that marriage is the only contract where you swear to abide by your vows but can suffer no ill effects if you don't.
Should it really be a contract that is weaker and harder to enforce than any other form of contract?
However, it's worth observing that marriage is the only contract where you swear to abide by your vows but can suffer no ill effects if you don't.
Should it really be a contract that is weaker and harder to enforce than any other form of contract?
I wouldn't say going through a divorce is necessarily suffering no ill effects.
I think if you tried to make divorce something warranting a legal penalty of some kind, the whole institution would either be ruled unworkable from the off, or would just die on its arse
I agree that for me (I'm married), divorce would represent unimaginable unhappiness and suffering. But I believe there are people for whom that is not true. Those people might believe that they would be happier divorced, and they would be able to break the contract (and probably cause suffering to their partner) without experiencing suffering from their own perspective.
When people pursue a divorce, it's generally because they believe they will suffer less if they get divorced.
When people pursue a divorce, it's generally because they believe they will suffer less if they get divorced.
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
I'm sorry I thought the the general consensus was that if there is a victim there should be a law against it
Not so.
This is why we have Civil Law, i.e. that of Tort and Contract.
Within marriage, adultery may be considered a breach of contract and constitutes grounds to terminate the agreement (i.e. divorce).
Moreover, the chances of success better for the plaintiff in Civil Cases, as the the burden of proof is only on the balance of probabilities, not "beyond reasonable doubt" as under Criminal Law.
You're falling into the same thought process that NuLab seem to be prone to that everything should be covered by Criminal Law.
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
if it were there would be a shit-load of people in prison
untethered
For industry & decency
Yes, bad people.
stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
Sounds like you're advocating a society where marital fidelity is enforced. Sorry, but I see that as legislation against human nature - people are attracted to and will fuck other people. Humans have been this way since the year dot.
As a counterpoint to your example, you also need look no further than children brought up in a household where the parents hate each other. This frequently manifests itself as child abuse as frustrated parents take out their marital insecurties on what they perceive as the (possibly unwanted) fruit of their union. A single parent isn't neccesarily a bad parent, and two parents aren't neccesarily bad parents. A child needs a certain degree of stability, love and attention and this can be found on both sides of the fence.
Disclaimer: I'm not a parent and have no wish to be
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
So do cream cakes. And bad diet costs the NHS more than adultery.
Lots of things impact on society; making them illegal isn't the answer.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Yuwipi Woman
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Gmart
Well-Known Member
Firstly, you do not understand their posts.
Secondly, you're extremely intolerant of the ideas that differ from yours, which is typical of the "liberals"...
It's not like the means justify the ends, the fact remains that they wish adultery to be illegal.
While you haven't even voted...
I am intolerant of people insisting on telling other people how they 'should' live their lives.
Often these moralists assume that 'society' will fall apart somehow if their measures are not applied - indicating their lack of faith, and their decision to impose this lack of faith on others, rather than trusting the people.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Sometimes people are a victim of their own stupidity, so I say we make stupidity illegal. Because there's a victim, you see, so there ought to be a law against it.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
So long as the individual has the right to judge whether they are the victim or not, then I don't see the problem there. If they accept, then they feel that they need help and can have it, if not then no one has the right to overrule their judgment and so cannot be forced into stupidity classes.
You see even with your rubbish, jokey answer, the personal empowerment line ensures that the individual is as protected/empowered as possible, which is my aim.
Still amazed at the number of people who seem keen on making adultery illegal...
Do I have the right to kill myself smoking? i wonder? Drinking? Motor racing? All could be grounds for insanity, and yet we prefer, as a society to still have some personal freedom...
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
My rubbishy, jokey answer was intended to poke fun at the idea that just because there is a so-called 'victim', there should be a criminal statute on the books.
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