Do you think Communism should be despised as much as Nazism?

[Edie]

tufty79 I honestly have no idea what a radical co-op is (and am a bit surprised they actually own housing tbh), but I absolutely would not assume anywhere was a safe place for women (more than anywhere else).

I think you absolutely should speak to the police. I know they don’t traditionally have a great reputation in these matters but my experience with them (albeit through other people) is that they are much better wrt sexual abuse.

(My experience of them with DV was that they were really very good at taking the report but then non-crimed it, but I think that is variable and that situation was difficult as my lad changed his mind. My experience of them when my youngest son went missing for a night recently was outstanding).

You might not get the outcome you would want but at least you’d know you’d reported it, and other women might have too, and you might get some specialist support. But at least you’d know there was some objectivity.

Glad you are in touch with Women’s Aid (I’ve not had contact with them really) and how about SARSVL, who I hear are good. Good luck. Don’t get sucked into he said, she said either here or in real life. Report to the actual police, and get real life support as it sounds you are doing, and know your own truth. Good luck xx

 

[VfromtheG]

Sorry Flavour
I got "support" from 2014-15 in the form of an accountability process run by gaslighting cunts who are protecting the 'nest' I left in 2011.
I've invited them as cooperatives all to start another process. They haven't replied.


I'm trying and failing to get any fucking answers on here about what rob Harrison did on here.

The COPS campaign have blocked me, but then, I know who fucking lives around the corner and set it up along with my rapist, and I will fucking slay them if I see them in person . They started my accountability process (on my "side") and set it up to fail.. And they found me on here in 2014 to ask if I needed them to look after me .

This Footprint - Accountability

Came out in 2018. I was the defamatory letter threat woman - I didn't know about the others.

One of his girlfriends made an #istandwithmerrick on twitter in response to my metoo thing that's now deleted.
Then other external crap knocked me over, I lost Sam, then found out he died. I'm just unpausing from all that at the moment

I am Nowhere near closure with this shit.

I was failed by the police in 2013 when I tried to report it all, and in 2015 when the internet weapons started kicking me on here; this time they're wanting to video interview me. And the idea of being in a small room with any policemen or policewomen makes me want to escape my skin.

Sorry, thread, for the derail.

That's the shortest summary I can write and probably has chunks missing because there's been fucking YEARS of it.

Hope you get justice . A lot of co-ops decend into frigetining cults . Expose them .

 

[tufty79]

I don't know who you are or where you're from, but VfromtheG, yep. You're SP t on. The minute I started talking about behaviour rather than ideology, my GP and support worker immediately went they're a cult. It's only taken 8 years to find the right way to talk about my experiences.

Edie Radical Routes - Radical Routes - A network of Housing Co-ops, Workers Co-ops and Social Centres
There are 90 member housing and workers coops across the UK. A woman called x at Cuntystone (who are landlords to fuckprint and where the Undercover Research Crap is run from) has been in tandem with the culty shit from extinction rebellion and m my rapist for years, and has fully supported m from when I disclosed his abuse years ago, up to now. He's living in Amsterdam and I think it's with the woman who tattooed me 20 years ago, sold me godhaven zines
when I was 15*, lied that the tatt was temporary and would disappear within 5 years..

godhaven ink | What On Earth Is Godhaven? And Why?

^ that's the political, sexual and definitions of consent bullshit I bought into when I was a kid. I didn't realise I was buying a corrupted version, and I don't really want to try doing a irl ctrl alt delete again.

I'm busy reading Alexandra stein ATM.

Thanks again thread, and that x
And sorry, Schwartz. This is what happens to threads when my love is unrequited


*Z, who used to run Leeds piercing studio, scares the shit out of me, and I feel like she fucking branded me on M's behalf

 

[tufty79]

My justice bar expectations are low tbf, I didn't think the police would even be bothered taking a statement. I wasn't going to touch any of this with a bargepole til I leave Leeds, but not doing anything makes me feel like I can't live with myself. I don't want to not be able to live with myself again - I am not a bad person, despite whatever I've internalised over the decades.

 

[Edie]

Hope you get justice . A lot of co-ops decend into frigetining cults . Expose them .

Fair to say this thread has not really ended up as a ringing endorsement for a cooperative based communism then.

 

[tufty79]

I bought highlighty pens and EVERYTHING

As an aside, I have no idea who the fuck******** is, I've only ever interacted with them on here on a limited basis and perceive them to be a gaslighter, silencer and predator. I don't really care what their explanation or justification is.

 

[Pickman's model]

I bought highlighty pens and EVERYTHING View attachment 245643

As an aside, I have no idea who the fuck ********** is, I've only ever interacted with them on here on a limited basis and perceive them to be a gaslighter, silencer and predator. I don't really care what their explanation or justification is.View attachment 245644View attachment 245645

Disappointed to see no faces on the cover coloured in

 

[Edie]

tufty79 Ive got to be honest and say that I don’t really understand all of your above post and Godhaven stuff. But I do wish you well. The police and in real life support organisations are best placed to help you x

 

[editor]

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Can you remove the names of the people you're accusing from this post please.

 

[tufty79]

It's fine to not understand what I on about it's all just irl offline links and connections that go back fucking decades and have weird overlaps and horiffic safeguarding loophole implications; coops like cornerstone are registered social landlords and advertise themselves as appropriate safe spaces for traumatized women recovering from sexual violence, while giving a repeat rapist easy access to us and telling us he was a safe man.

I'm off to get some sunshine. I've got Xmas cards addressed to every cornerstone cunt in my bag just in case I bump into them in our park - I figured it's easier to baffle them with niceness rather than risk turning into a screaming flailing banshee when I see them (provided I remember to go for the cards not the jugular).

 

[tufty79]

Sure editor

Can I ask why you didn't get in touch with me about Boogie Boy, when you had my offline contact details and knew I couldn't log in to read Dave cinzano's message two years ago, please?

 

[tufty79]

Oh! And did The Unnamed ever threaten you with legal action about my posts, like they did me, editor ? In the interests of transparency etc I'd prefer todiscuss this on the boards rather than by pm

 

[Serge Forward]

Fair to say this thread has not really ended up as a ringing endorsement for a cooperative based communism then.

But cooperatives are not communism.

 

[8ball]

But cooperatives are not communism.

Cooperatives exist, for starters.

 

[tufty79]

Disappointed to see no faces on the cover coloured in

I can't afford a spare copy to spoil - her next book cover



isn't monochrome though, and I have a specific activist colouring in for adults book already, which kind of sorts out that conundrum

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't afford a spare copy to spoil - her next book cover

View attachment 245743

isn't monochrome though, and I have a specific activist colouring in for adults book already, which kind of sorts out that conundrum

I thought it'd be an improvement not a disbenefit

 

[tufty79]

I could probably pick up some pound shop acrylics which would just peel off
Should I take that as a brief?

 

[tufty79]

Oh, Pickman's

You've started a whole thought process - I have photos from the last quarter century and a printer*. I don't need to imagine the faces I'd fill in on the monochrome cover; I can just cut and pritt stick

I used to cooltan in Camberwell. They believed creativity powers mental health. I think it goes both ways tbf

E2a * boxed and unused so far

 

[VfromtheG]

Fair to say this thread has not really ended up as a ringing endorsement for a cooperative based communism then.

I did say some co-op's . Well... about half of them are ok . I suppose it's all about preference . I have returned to ye olde fashion of land piracy because it's easier to keep things horizontal without all that process .. which I find unnecessary on a small scale. Obviously elected committees come into play governing a countries infrastructure, but to me seem a little out of place when running a farm .. eek . I could literally rant for hours on this .

 

[tufty79]

Jfc even Gingerbread have got sucked in

 

[tufty79]

I'm trying and failing to find the article by a RR coop member denying he was in a cult, and talking about the group rejecting a coop for membership that raised its own animals for slaughter. I think it was in red pepper
All animals are equal etc.

 

[tufty79]

Oh and Edie I'm joining some dots about where my brain had been and where I've been posting on here since the moment I came back.

I was posting about Sam Hanitizer all over a thread about undercovers, simply because it was the first space id had to talk about him and I was catching myself up from 2018.
Sorry, portal to Oddness moment with stuff that doesn't make sense and scares me, and needs to go somewhere

I'm going to phone the inquest people for a chat about Sam in the next few weeks.


Christ I sound like an extra feral Vicky Pollard

E2aAble to edit this particular post because bit doesn't scare me reading it

 

[A380]

It’s a fairly standard ‘tactic’ of sexual offenders/ predators and their enablers to reach for ‘the victim is mad’ trope. You see it everywhere, whether the enablers are doing it because the offender is ‘a decent bloke really’ or more often they have a suspicion what’s going on but feel it’s more important to protect the organisation (see, to pick an example entirely at random, the Catholic Church from say 330AD to, well now). Saw it close up at second hand once, got the perpetrator in the dock and found guilty eventually though but at huge physical and emotional cost and effort to a small group.

I don’t know why, but I am always disappointed when it’s ‘progressive’ organisations that do this. Disappointed, but rarely surprised.

 

[editor]

Sure editor

Can I ask why you didn't get in touch with me about Boogie Boy, when you had my offline contact details and knew I couldn't log in to read Dave cinzano's message two years ago, please?

I don't have your offline contact details and I know absolutely nothing about Boogie Boy apart from a vague recollection of his name. And unless I'm recalling it incorrectly, wasn't this during the time - to put it kindly - where you had declared yourself 'unavailable'?

But to repeat: this is not a place for you to throw around unsubstantiated serious allegations and I insist that you stop immediately. While I wish you every success in bringing those who have harmed you to justice, I can't have an individual poster endangering the site by opening us up to the possibility of legal action.

 

[tufty79]

It was after I got in touch with you on twitter and apologised for 2015, and you were reallylly nice about it all, put things very 'kindly' and forgave me. (I assume you're referring to me faking my own death badly because I was terrified of people on and off here in 2015 and having a breakdown.).

I meant to ask you in 2018 to sort out me getting back on here again if I ever wanted to.. then bad shit kicked off irl and I took down all my social media.

My urban registration email still worked though (I didn't realise it still was tied to my account til last month - I thought I'd changed it to a scrambled throwaway email. Then I got drunk, went through my old inboxes, reset my password and popped back up).

Sorry if I'm not being clear, I apparently got infiltrated by an undercover officer who joined here as boogie boy, and there were Attempts in 2018 to reach offline urbanities that he infiltrated. Sorry, I mistakenly assumed you knew about all that. There were comments on the spot the undercover thread that LL might be able to get in touch with posters that DaveCinzano hadn't been able to contact - including me. I found out I'd been infiltrated last month, by accident. If I hadn't found out online, I wouldn't have ever known.

I'm now taking part in the undercover policing enquiry, and miffed that I nearly never even had a scooby.

Back on topic... am i allowed to talk about stuff in general terms without naming individuals or organisations or describing specific trauma?

Did you not read all the PM's to you and the other mods from a throwaway Tufty__ account last month about why I needed to get back in here, specifically mentioned boogie boy and the undercover enquiry, , and then the other ones I sent after I got back into this account?

It feels like our interactions at the moment are coming from completely different realities, and 2018/20 didn't happen
Not knowing about or understanding what's happened to me when other people know but just won't explain it for whatever reason, generally, doesn't normally go well - that's a wider world issue tbf and keeps recurring. Especially with good well meaning people who tend to just forget about my existence, and bad ones (not on here) who seem to want to forget about my existence.

Sorry, that's all the editing I have to add. I just really hate not understanding how I
still keepp being failed by everything that's meant to look after me (wider world context) and that has been going on for 41 years. It's really tiring and really scary.

 

[chilango]

tufty79 I'd say this is a conversation that you'd want to have with editor on a thread that isn't as "open" as this one (some of the forums incl. p&p are viewable and searchable by anyone, others restricted to members of the Urban community).

Just a thought.

 

[tufty79]

I'm going to put it kindly to myself that I shouldn't post before insulin or breakfast

Good point well made chilango - ta.

 

[tufty79]

And please never use the word "unsubstantiated" at me in this context ever again, editor. My amagdyla doesn't respond well.

 

[Pickman's model]

Jfc even Gingerbread have got sucked inView attachment 245771View attachment 245772

is there any publicly known reason why rr should be avoided? - Anything that is in the public domain which afaik your experience isn't.

 

[tufty79]

I don't know.

I've only started looking at them on the internet recently and it's not a v pleasant experience. Give me time and a bit more strength, and probably a bunch of extra support women and I'll get back to you by PM, PM