Shafted at work, again...
- Thread starter TopCat
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
He refused to pay me for he milk saying I was being petty.
The CEO and the Chair are still in their meeting.
Print one of these out:
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
He refused to pay me for he milk saying I was being petty.
The CEO and the Chair are still in their meeting.
Print one of these out:
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
If you are entitled to three months' notice, then you are also entitled to that notice for a change in your contract, so the offer of reduced hours and pay should not take effect for three months.... might that help?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The CEO was just down to say he was disappointed that I would be leaving given the efforts he had made to find/make a position here for me. I think it's starting to sink into his dense little brain that he will have to do all the work now and does not know how to do it?
He asked me if I would still be putting in the XXX x XXX tender that is out in April/May. This bloke is seriously thick.
He asked me if I would still be putting in the XXX x XXX tender that is out in April/May. This bloke is seriously thick.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Make sure he is clear that you are not leaving voluntarily - don't say anything to make him think you are resigning! 
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
well done!
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
You may also want to take it a bit further, and ask them for a formal offer of compensation for you to consider.
Don't accept anything without considering it, by the way, even if it seems generous!
One thing to know is that, if they offer you compensation, rather than payment in lieu of notice, it would not be subject to tax, whereas notice payments are....
Don't accept anything without considering it, by the way, even if it seems generous!
One thing to know is that, if they offer you compensation, rather than payment in lieu of notice, it would not be subject to tax, whereas notice payments are....
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
He sounds like a complete wanker, TopCat.
And no more morning milk purchases - he's got a damned cheek if he won't even reimburse you. What a cock.
I wish you all the best TopCat, and I hope your boss gets everything he obviously so richly deserves.
And no more morning milk purchases - he's got a damned cheek if he won't even reimburse you. What a cock.
I wish you all the best TopCat, and I hope your boss gets everything he obviously so richly deserves.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I love the way they're making out this is YOUR decision too!!!!!! 
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
If they pay you the rate for your current job during the notice period, and it constitutes 'reasonable alternative duties' or some such, then perhaps...
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Oh fuck could this give them wriggle room if I decline?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
possibly.
as far as I know, there's no legal right to be given pay in lieu of notice, so if they are prepared to give you 'suitable' work for the 3 months, if you refuse that then you could be taken to be 'resigning'
some employers seem happy to give people pay in lieu to get them out of the way, some employers resist it as a matter of principle (in some cases they try harder to resist it when people seem to be trying harder to get it, if you see what i mean)
whether your existing contract would make going driving for 3 months on your current pay & conditions (as opposed to covering the odd duty because someone is sick) 'reasonable' or 'suitable' is probably the key here.
if your current job is office hours and they wanted you to do shift work for the 3 months, that might not be 'reasonable'
this subject to the usual disclaimer that i'm not a lawyer, i haven't seen your contract, if in doubt ring ACAS and so on.
best of luck.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Surely that would be in addition to your normal duties though, not instead of. Another reason to politely decline doing extra work for no extra pay.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
I reckon it's just about my favourite thing on here when this sort of *one step ahead* advice is given when you have employers blatantly attempting to be shameless, scheming, sly, rip off merchants.....nice one Puddy Tat, past caring, Guin etc ...and best of luck in getting what you're due, TC (and I hope your luck changes soon, too, cos you deserve a fucking break).
Keep at em! x
...and best of luck in getting what you're due, TC (and I hope your luck changes soon, too, cos you deserve a fucking break).Keep at em! x
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
If he'll put all that in writing ? ? hmmmm.....
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
....'broadly similar' being not significantly more...and with it all in writing? 
And text him on your last day at 5.40am to say you're running late, or you'd do it yourself, obv....but you do faintly recall that the milk was possibly running low, although you're not 100%, but he might want to get himself some in, just in case
And text him on your last day at 5.40am to say you're running late, or you'd do it yourself, obv....but you do faintly recall that the milk was possibly running low, although you're not 100%, but he might want to get himself some in, just in case
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Seeing as this guy is just itching to shaft you, get everything in writing first including the duties they want you to do in addition to what you normally do.
Agree to nothing until this is provided. If he won't, point out how 'petty' he's being - after all, what's the big deal? *affect innocence here*
No more Mr Milk Monitor!!
Agree to nothing until this is provided. If he won't, point out how 'petty' he's being - after all, what's the big deal? *affect innocence here*
No more Mr Milk Monitor!!
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
....'broadly similar' being not significantly more...and with it all in writing?
And text him on your last day at 5.40am to say you're running late, or you'd do it yourself, obv....but you do faintly recall that the milk was possibly running low, although you're not 100%, but he might want to get himself some in, just in case
How about 'milk smelt a bit funny yesterday, he'd better get fresh supplies in'?
grit
an ugly force for good
Stay strong, you are doing great.
past caring
The Cathars were right
I'll go in and emphisize that my reading of the terms and conditions is that 3 months notice is due. I will agree to do whatever for the same money and broadly similar hours.
If it's a notice period, it has to be the same terms and conditions -i.e. pay, leave entitlement, etc. - otherwise it's a new contract. Despite any cuntishness, it seems that he's at least realised that.
You may wish to ask for confirmation in writing that this will be the case, but I'd not make it a sticking point - in effect, you already have it in writing, because it's in your contract and unless you've agreed (in writing) to a change to that contract or to an entirely new one, then the existing contract subsits.
However, thinking of getting things in writing - may be an idea to get an agreed reference written up before you leave?
