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Roger Waters self indulgent twat / not self indulgent twat

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The Bravery of Being out of Range is on The Final Cut, which is basically all the material that never made it onto The Wall, and The Wall is at least inspired by himself if not about himself (after he spat in a fan’s face at an Animals concert).
It’s on Amused to Death :)

(I only listened to it yesterday)
 
The Bravery of Being out of Range is on The Final Cut, which is basically all the material that never made it onto The Wall, and The Wall is at least inspired by himself if not about himself (after he spat in a fan’s face at an Animals concert).
??? No it's not?
 
i can't believe that so much attention is being given to Roger Waters being a cunt or not . Its almost as if we have endless time to waste and that there are not more pressing and interesting matters to debate. For eg, is Sir Paul McCartney a cunt for trying to airbrush Lennon out of the history of the Beatles?
 
I think it should go without saying that cunts are complex. There's a series of interviews with Waters, Wright, Gilmore and Mason that you can find on youtube, mainly with respect to Sid Barrett and what happened to him. I watched all these a few years back because... because well fixation with Barrett that I'm not necessarily particularly proud about. But anyway my impressions on the personalities of the four

Wright just comes across as distant and uncomfortable being interviewed
Gilmore comes across as thoughtful and relatively humble
Mason comes across as a "brutally honest" type and frankly pretty heartless
Waters comes across as a big, forceful personality who's also very emotional (he broke down in tears) and basically caring

I kinda liked Waters in that interview but he's very wedded to the dubious "Sid was an acid casualty" theory and is very much the type who has no self-doubt. I could imagine he's a very decent guy if you knew him. Most of the time. But that's tempered by a big ego and I don't know quite what happens when someone challenges that ego - I guess his band mates eventually found out. But it's not surprising that he's a) into left wing politics and b) doing it really badly. And really it's as a public figure that we know him anyway, so maybe his heart is in the right place in some sense but in some ways that just makes it worse.
 
i can't believe that so much attention is being given to Roger Waters being a cunt or not . Its almost as if we have endless time to waste and that there are not more pressing and interesting matters to debate. For eg, is Sir Paul McCartney a cunt for trying to airbrush Lennon out of the history of the Beatles?
Has Paul McCartney re-recorded Sgt Peppers on his own in order to rid it of the other Beatles’ contributions?

Exactly. 😉
 
Has Paul McCartney re-recorded Sgt Peppers on his own in order to rid it of the other Beatles’ contributions?

Exactly. 😉
This isn’t new though. He did the original Berlin gig of The Wall using talent that wasn’t other band members.
Likewise Pink Floyd have played gigs using material he wrote without him.
 
This isn’t new though. He did the original Berlin gig of The Wall using talent that wasn’t other band members.
Likewise Pink Floyd have played gigs using material he wrote without him.
That’s gigs, though. Bit different from re-recording a classic album (Dark Side of the Moon).
 
I think it should go without saying that cunts are complex. There's a series of interviews with Waters, Wright, Gilmore and Mason that you can find on youtube, mainly with respect to Sid Barrett and what happened to him. I watched all these a few years back because... because well fixation with Barrett that I'm not necessarily particularly proud about. But anyway my impressions on the personalities of the four

Wright just comes across as distant and uncomfortable being interviewed
Gilmore comes across as thoughtful and relatively humble
Mason comes across as a "brutally honest" type and frankly pretty heartless
Waters comes across as a big, forceful personality who's also very emotional (he broke down in tears) and basically caring

I kinda liked Waters in that interview but he's very wedded to the dubious "Sid was an acid casualty" theory and is very much the type who has no self-doubt. I could imagine he's a very decent guy if you knew him. Most of the time. But that's tempered by a big ego and I don't know quite what happens when someone challenges that ego - I guess his band mates eventually found out. But it's not surprising that he's a) into left wing politics and b) doing it really badly. And really it's as a public figure that we know him anyway, so maybe his heart is in the right place in some sense but in some ways that just makes it worse.
This is well balanced and insightful, unlike some of the other derisory contributions
 
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