Which had more influence, Sabbath or Led Zep?

[hitmouse]

I can hear a touch of Zeppelin in Nirvana and a touch more of Sabbath in them I think Cobain described Nirvana as The Beatles + Black Sabbath. An oversimplification of course but an odd mention for team Zeppelin.

Had no idea that the Stone Roses sited Led Zeppelin as in influence. That's a real surprise. All the Led Zeppelin fans I knew at the time hated them.

Yeah, a few seconds' googling finds this for instance:

Intriguingly, Vig also recalled during mixing when Cobain brought up his love of Black Sabbath and instructed the producer to take Nevermind towards that direction. He revealed: “I’d be balancing the drums and the guitar and Kurt would come and say ‘Turn all the treble off. I want it to sound more like Black Sabbath.’ It was kind of a pain in the ass”.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I can hear a touch of Zeppelin in Nirvana and a touch more of Sabbath in them I think Cobain described Nirvana as The Beatles + Black Sabbath. An oversimplification of course but an odd mention for team Zeppelin.

Dave Grohl quotes John Bonham as the biggest influence on his drumming.

I'd say Zeppelin's rhythm section were more influential than Page or Plant. Case in point:



...that's Bonham's drumming from 'The Crunge', a weird 9/8 time prog-funk tune which supposedly gave its name to the whole genre of Grunge.

 

[krtek a houby]

I can’t think of any band that owes its sound to Led Zep.

You don't hear it in The Mission or The White Stripes even a little bit?

 

[danny la rouge]

You don't hear it in The Mission or The White Stripes even a little bit?

I mean I know Jack White likes Led Zep, but he doesn’t sound like them. He’s much more raw and interesting.

 

[krtek a houby]

I mean I know Jack White likes Led Zep, but he doesn’t sound like them. He’s much more raw and interesting.

I can hear the influence in a few songs, (but the blues and other influences) are there with both.

 

[danny la rouge]

I can hear the influence in a few songs, (but the blues and other influences) are there with both.

Yeah, there is common influence.

I don’t want to rubbish Led Zep. They had a few tunes. But they were heavily influenced by previous British blues bands. Even Page was said to be disappointed when Plant’s contribution to Whole Lotta Love was to just replicate Steve Marriott’s rendition of this Willie Dixon song written for Muddy Waters:



The vocal inflection, the vocal licks and runs, the delivery that Page uses is all Marriott.

 

[A380]

Poll fail. No Iron Maiden …

 

[danny la rouge]

Poll fail. No Iron Maiden …

Aye, Tory rock for yacht owners.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, there is common influence.

I don’t want to rubbish Led Zep. They had a few tunes. But they were heavily influenced by previous British blues bands. Even Page was said to be disappointed when Plant’s contribution to Whole Lotta Love was to just replicate Steve Marriott’s rendition of this Willie Dixon song written for Muddy Waters:



The vocal inflection, the vocal licks and runs, the delivery that Page uses is all Marriott.

Please feel free to rubbish, nothing should be sacred and above criticism.

Have been listening to Sabbath and Zep since my teens, so there's an attachment of familiarity... but there's musical and on the road antics that deserve a diss or two.

The great thing about the British blues artists was contributing towards a revival of the blues in the US.

 

[Idris2002]

Debbie Harry was a Led Zep fan, if memory serves.

 

[danny la rouge]

The great thing about the British blues artists was contributing towards a revival of the blues in the US.

Absolutely.

 

[krtek a houby]

Debbie Harry was a Led Zep fan, if memory serves.

One way, or another

 

[danny la rouge]

Debbie Harry was a Led Zep fan, if memory serves.

So was Billy Joel.

 

[krtek a houby]

So was Billy Joel.

Tell me about it!

 

[Hollis]

I'd go with Sabbath, even though i'm more of a Zeppelin person..

But of course all the really cool bands/artists were influenced by Jethro Tull.

 

[8ball]

Not which is best? (That’s Sabbath). Or which you prefer. (Again Sabbath, surely).

This surprises me.

 

[danny la rouge]

This surprises me.

International man of mystery, me.

 

[Knotted]

Dave Grohl quotes John Bonham as the biggest influence on his drumming.

I'd say Zeppelin's rhythm section were more influential than Page or Plant. Case in point:



...that's Bonham's drumming from 'The Crunge', a weird 9/8 time prog-funk tune which supposedly gave its name to the whole genre of Grunge.

Yeah Bonham is hugely important. But at the same time he's really tricky to imitate. A drummer's drummer.

I saw a classic rock covers band at the local pub the other night. They played Paranoid but they didn't touch Led Zeppelin. It would have been a bit beyond them technically I think.

 

[savoloysam]

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