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RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

bimble said:
Theft of property as a metaphor for sexual assault, is popular but a really bad idea.
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I think this is a bad idea?

If you were to turn up in a strappy vest and short shorts and expect to be treated with any kind of respect by anybody, men or women, because 'its my right to wear whatever i want', you'd be (imo) a fool
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LeytonCatLady said:
Sounds like Couzens was always a little prick. How did no one see it? Didn't his parents, teachers etc notice him bullying other kids and other warped behaviour?

Wayne Couzens was just 14 when he shot a classmate with an airgun - johnscience.com

A violent oddball obsessed with guns and porn: Killer cop Wayne Couzens – who has now admitted to murdering Sarah
johnscience.com johnscience.com
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A relative of that victim said: ‘Wayne certainly had a violent streak in school. I know from talking to others that it’s surprising he managed to join the police force.’
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I had to read that twice to confirm the word "not" seems to have been omitted.

Either that or this relative lives on another planet.
 
Orang Utan said:
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That is really a list to make people feel good, maybe a bit of a giggle.

It is not an appropriate list of personal safety, it was how not to rape.
My list was a list of things women can do to stay safe.

A while back I watched a video - wish I could find it.

It was about a professor at a college/university.

He asked the women what the did every morning to stay safe.
Answers were similar to the list, but was more varied.
The women gave lots of examples, one was how to carry your keys.
I still do that.

After the women's finished and the answers were on the board, he asked the men the same question.
The men had nothing, personal safety was not a priority for them.

Until men understand what we have to go through, they will never understand.
 
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The was a country song a while back called "drunk girl"

This was the chorus-

Take a drunk girl home
Let her sleep all alone
Leave her keys on the counter, your number by the phone
Pick up her life she threw on the floor
Leave the hall lights on, walk out and lock the door
That's how she knows the difference between a boy and man
Take a drunk girl home
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Total respect to the men who do this.

 
A relative of that victim said: ‘Wayne certainly had a violent streak in school. I know from talking to others that it’s surprising he managed to join the police force.’
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I find it desperately sad that someone seems to genuinely believe that the police would want to avoid hiring violent arseholes. It's the standard job for the school bully to end up in.
 
SpookyFrank said:
I find it desperately sad that someone seems to genuinely believe that the police would want to avoid hiring violent arseholes. It's the standard job for the school bully to end up in.
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Not quite the same thing, but one of my schoolfriends at 12 or 13 could be an outrageous liar. When I heard she now works in a Jobcentre, I nodded and thought "Yeah, figures!"
 
Regarding the double standard about not going out after dark and men not getting the same advice about avoiding danger. I wonder if that's due to the different types of violence the sexes are more likely to experience. Women are at higher risk of sexual violence, but with blokes it's more likely to be a mugging or stabbing. So I'm wondering whether the attitude is that most lads have to go through a fight at some point, but girls should protect themselves from being "defiled" at all costs. I believe this mentality goes back to when we were property. Some guys still have the notion that they can have as many girlfriends as they want, but a woman is "sloppy seconds" or "damaged goods" if she's had a sexual history before him - which is a fucking horrible way to describe a human being, but I have actually spoken to one or two blokes who blatantly use those terms. As much as I believe Philip Allott's "Don't go out/be streetwise when you do" is largely well meaning if ill worded, I definitely think there's a few of his colleagues giving that advice who aren't so much telling us to avoid being raped because we have the right not to be raped, but because they see women as "belonging" to men like them. Probably the same type of old school cops who don't give a shit if a woman's being abused at home and dismiss it as "just a domestic".
 
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www.independent.co.uk

Privacy fears over ‘terribly misguided‘ and ‘flawed’ 888 tracking service for women

‘Tracking women’s movements is not a solution for male violence’ says campaigner
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Silkie Carlo, director of campaign group, Big Brother Watch, told The Independent: “Tracking women’s movements is not a solution for male violence. This is a terribly misguided, invasive and offensive policy that misdiagnoses the problem and will do nothing to make women safer.”

Leigh Morgan, senior legal officer at Rights of Women, said the scheme was “deeply flawed in its approach and expectation on women to adapt our lives to try and ensure safety from male violence.”

“This approach encourages a culture of victim responsibility and victim-blaming, and doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of the issue,” she said.

She added: “In addition, we’re concerned about the potential security risks and impact of private companies having access to women’s locations and patterns of movement – particularly as we know domestic abusers use tech platforms to monitor and perpetrate harm against women.”
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last paragraph particularly relevant I think (although all are).
 
David Clapson said:
Not sure where best to post this, but it seems that yet another woman has been murdered by her husband: Husband a ‘suspect’ as Tirop found dead
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Unfortunately, you don't need to go all the way to Kenya to look for women being murdered by men.

81 women have been murdered by men in the UK since Sarah Everard was killed.

That's right, 81. In 28 weeks.

www.theguardian.com

The 81 women killed in 28 weeks

Since Sarah Everard’s brutal murder, only one thing has changed – the death toll
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
wtfftw said:
I still don't understand how misogyny isn't a hate crime.
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It's astounding. Just looking narrowly at protected characteristics under equality legislation, and leaving morality and everything else out of the argument for a moment, how can eg religion be such an aggravating factor in cases where sex (f/m) isn't? For Johnson to say no it'd make work for the police, fucking beggars belief.
 
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